ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Benjen can;t be coldhands, Leaf says that CH "died long ago". TCotF live for hundreds and hundreds of year, Benjen has been missing at most 40 months.

as far as Daario being someone else, its possible. and to pull it off on a tv show they would have to switch actors (ie: the reason the barristan story was changed, you cant hide him behind a beard and expect viewers to not notice).

Benjen may not be dead, but hes not daario or CH.

furthermore, Jorah would recognize a westerosi man, even in disguise jorah would hear the accent.

and FINALLY, Barristan should actually recognize Benjen as they shoulda both in Winterfell together a few years ago when King Robert asked Eddard Stark to be hand of the king, as barristan was still in the kingsguard at that time.

Good stuff about Benjen/Coldhands, I just re-read the part with the Children of the Forest, missed that before.

I really don't know, maybe Daario is Jaqen. George R.R.R.R.R.R. Martin is a great author; I don't think he's so misogynistic or simplistic to just add Daario as a boy-toy for Dany, without him serving some greater purpose. But yeah, I really don't have much evidence, I'm just grasping at straws for lack of a convincing theory as to his identity.

WTB The Winds of Winter

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good stuff about Benjen/Coldhands, I just re-read the part with the Children of the Forest, missed that before.

I really don't know, maybe Daario is Jaqen. George R.R.R.R.R.R. Martin is a great author; I don't think he's so misogynistic or simplistic to just add Daario as a boy-toy for Dany, without him serving some greater purpose. But yeah, I really don't have much evidence, I'm just grasping at straws for lack of a convincing theory as to his identity.

WTB The Winds of Winter

hehe, jaqen h'ghar is actually disguised as Pate by the end of book 4.

follow me here, Jaqen changes his face in front of Arya in book 2, and we are told he now has a hooked nose and thick, black, curly hair, with a slight scar on his right cheek. This is an identical description to that of the character called by the The Alchemist (The Alchemist has a hooked nose and thick, black, curly hair, with a slight scar on his right cheek Prologue of Book 4). in that chapter the alchemist kills Pate via the exact same "poison coin" method that Arya uses on the docks of Braavos. and then at the very end of book 4, when Sam Tarly meets Archmaester Marwyn 'the Mage' a youth is present who calls himself Pate and has the same features as the person who died previously.

Better question, what is Jaqen doing in Oldtown, and what does he want with Sam? After Marwyn has gone, Pate(Jaqen) tells Sam that there’s an empty sleeping cell under his own in the west tower, with steps that lead right up to Archmaester Walgrave’s chambers. He adds that the ravens quork but there is a good view of the Honeywine. Sam agrees to sleep there. Pate(Jaqen) tells him he will bring Sam some woolen coverlets since the stone walls turn cold at night. Sam thanks him, but thinks to himself that there is something about the pale, soft youth that he mislikes, but he does not want to seem discourteous so he tells him his name, in return the youth tells him his name, which is Pate, "like the pig boy" he adds.



edit- and this - It is very unlikely the Pate that Sam meets when he reaches Oldtown is the same Pate in the prologue of "A Feast for Crows." The Pate in the prologue hates being connected to Spotted Pate the pig boy, while in the final chapter of A Feast For Crows he introduces himself as "Pate like the pig boy".

[LulzSect]

Looks like I'm due to read book 4 again. Argh.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by LulzSect [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looks like I'm due to read book 4 again. Argh.

it sounds like u had the same issues with 4 that i had. was just soooo slow after book 3. here a lot of what u missed

The Dornish Master Plan Part 1 - http://youtu.be/6TBfdd_xNVo
The Dornish Master Plan Part 2 - http://youtu.be/gpghGwSo0ws
The Dornish Master Plan Part 3 - http://youtu.be/FPI5eDuFfAw
The Dornish Master Plan Part 4 - http://youtu.be/HedVa92wkYg

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by LulzSect [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looks like I'm due to read book 4 again. Argh.

Yeah seriously... I completely missed the Pate / Jaqen thing.
The fourth was definitely the most boring / least engaging of the five.

[Halius]

Holy crap, I'm seriously going to have to read all the books again. I am reading through pages of theories on characters and I just can't remember half the stuff you guys are all talking about. I haven't read them all in about 5 years.

Well time to delve into about 4500 pages of content, hopefully I remember everything this time.

[Sirken]

Game of Thrones panel at Comic Con

Part 1 - http://youtu.be/28vsAkfo94g
Part 2 - http://youtu.be/uFn9G9zToqw


GRRM dropped some book 6 info.
one thing was that we will see

 

Jeyne Westerling in book 6

[Mandalore93]

AFFC best book in the series so far. Loved all the plot movings in it.

[Quaos]

That's an interesting choice for the prologue. Any ideas for why?

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Mandalore93 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AFFC best book in the series so far. Loved all the plot movings in it.

no

Originally Posted by Quaos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's an interesting choice for the prologue. Any ideas for why?

no

Originally Posted by Aenor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did he spoil when the f'in book is coming out?

no


but, Storm of Swords best book.

prologue, expect her to die, im pretty sure someone dies in every prologue & epilogue.

he said Book 6 will be out after Velious