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Old 10-01-2010, 07:37 AM
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No studies showing pot is harmless have been posted. My original post that showed scientific evidence of pot being harmful has still not been refuted after many pot heads have weighed in. Unless some last minute challenger steps up, it is safe to say that my contention that pot is harmful has been proven.


Please note that I am not making any suggestions as to whether pot should remain illegal or not, I'm simply refuting the claims that smoking pot is harmless.
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:25 AM
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I believe the brain cell loss was was due to the gas masks being pumped FULL of pot smoke. Deplete brain of oxygen and brain cells die. How do you think those monkeys died?
That is actully a conclusion of others who came after and read the report and tried to make light of it. There is no proof that either the gas masking or the pot smokingn is what killed the monkeys. However the monkeys that did smoke pot did have brain dmg and the monkeys that did not showed none and the monkeys that were exposed to a placebo smoke(in the same manner as the pot monkeys) did not die not show brain dmg when they were killed and autopsied

Which could lead one to conclude that the pot smoke contributed to brain cell loss
I did not make the study only cited it. you have problems with the way in which it was done go talk to the Dr. who did it
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:29 AM
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Pot didnt lead you to try shit. Prove it.

You're dumber because of all the OTHER drugs you did..

Hahaha what a dumbass.
Without the exposure to the world of drugs and easy access that It gave me to them. I would have never have tried the other drugs. Without the MIND ALTERING state that pot puts one in I would never have tried other drugs.
Your a total moron to think that kids just start with hardcore drugs.
They almost all start with pot. Some with alchohol.
You are a total fucking moron to think that smoking pot does not open doors to more dangerous drugs.
all your doing is making a stupid troll post and guess what, I AM DUMBER FOR READING IT.
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Old 10-01-2010, 10:42 AM
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The only thing marijuana is a gateway to is my fridge.
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:47 AM
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Without the exposure to the world of drugs and easy access that It gave me to them. I would have never have tried the other drugs. Without the MIND ALTERING state that pot puts one in I would never have tried other drugs.
Your a total moron to think that kids just start with hardcore drugs.
They almost all start with pot. Some with alchohol.
You are a total fucking moron to think that smoking pot does not open doors to more dangerous drugs.
all your doing is making a stupid troll post and guess what, I AM DUMBER FOR READING IT.
Ok bro, ill try my hardest to find this info. Ive ready it before. They burned like 100 joint worth of pot into the gas masks of monkeys in under 5 minutes. so yeah that would kill you too dumbass.

The thc isnt what killed them. The lack of mother fucking oxygen did.

Youre such a fag bro, ill tell you i would be wayy more likely to smoke crack or do heroine if i was on alcohol. Not pot. So go ahead and toss that bullshit out the window. Smoking tobacco kills 300 000 a year. thats more than alcohol, cocaine , opiates combined. It legal to buy at 18. I will admit THAT was MY gateway drug. Or maybe it was candy????

Guess how many humand have used marijuana and died of toxicity? 0 in the last oh couple thousand years weve been recording HISTORY.

I guarentee you someone died by eating a peanut today.

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Old 10-01-2010, 11:49 AM
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Wow this wasnt hard to find - http://www.montananorml.org/marijuanafacts

Myth: Marijuana kills brain cells.
Fact: None of the medical tests involving humans have shown any evidence of brain damage due to marijuana use, including chronic long term use. The assertion that pot kills brain cells is based on a flawed study involving rhesus monkeys in the 1970s, in which electrodes were implanted in the monkeys' brains. This invasive procedure killed or otherwise removed all but one of the monkeys from the test. A 1991 study of rhesus monkeys and marijuana smoke revealed no marijuana-related brain abnormalities whatsoever.
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Old 10-01-2010, 12:02 PM
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No studies showing pot is harmless have been posted. My original post that showed scientific evidence of pot being harmful has still not been refuted after many pot heads have weighed in. Unless some last minute challenger steps up, it is safe to say that my contention that pot is harmful has been proven.


Please note that I am not making any suggestions as to whether pot should remain illegal or not, I'm simply refuting the claims that smoking pot is harmless.
cuz pot heads really can't think further then "pot is cool, pot is fun, if you don't smoke pot your a buz kill and suck" asking them to perform serious research and lucid thinking or arguments is impossible for them.

it's like smoking tobacco, there are no good reasons for it, but lots of people do it. lots and lots of studies have been made to prove tobacco is nasty for your health.

people don't care if something is good or bad for them, it's a drug, people use it for the instant joy... or bliss that it provides them for a brief moment instead to thinking over the long term. Where they will pay it back ten folds by suffering trough lung cancer or something of the likes.

kinda like eq vs wow (terms some of you might understand better)

eq, work hard for a long time and enjoy your self along the way and feel like you accomplished something maybe when you kill mob x or what not after months and months. Still reminisce on it after 10+ years and given the opportunity, would do it all over again.

wow, log in press 2-3 buttons get purplz l337 gear in your bags instantly lvl to 80 woot I'm su uber and kewl. but then end up being bored out of your mind and quitting after a short time cuz well, instant gratification lasts only that... an instant.
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Old 10-01-2010, 12:08 PM
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Hey just because Raren and Abacab smoke pot doesn't mean that everyone who does is retarded.
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:54 PM
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Wow this wasnt hard to find - http://www.montananorml.org/marijuanafacts

Myth: Marijuana kills brain cells.
Fact: None of the medical tests involving humans have shown any evidence of brain damage due to marijuana use, including chronic long term use. The assertion that pot kills brain cells is based on a flawed study involving rhesus monkeys in the 1970s, in which electrodes were implanted in the monkeys' brains. This invasive procedure killed or otherwise removed all but one of the monkeys from the test. A 1991 study of rhesus monkeys and marijuana smoke revealed no marijuana-related brain abnormalities whatsoever.
LOL have you actully read the studies or just some summary that someone put together?
Cause I can tell you this much I have read both and that summary is bullshit.
No electrodes were placed in the monkeys brain so that is a straight lie.
the 2nd study from the 90's that tries to refute did not even look at the brains of the monekys but looked at the brainwaves and DID show that pot effected them
The other Study from the 90's showed that pot smoke degenerated the overall health of the monkeys but again they did not look at the brains to see what happened

Please as with the other guy bring REAL PROOF to the table
You have your head so far up your ass your grasping at straws to try to prove a point that was not conclusivly proved in those later studies
Fucking read the studies asswipe I did and know what they say. you obviously did not
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Old 10-01-2010, 01:57 PM
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LOL have you actully read the studies or just some summary that someone put together?
Cause I can tell you this much I have read both and that summary is bullshit.
No electrodes were placed in the monkeys brain so that is a straight lie.
the 2nd study from the 90's that tries to refute did not even look at the brains of the monekys but looked at the brainwaves and DID show that pot effected them
The other Study from the 90's showed that pot smoke degenerated the overall health of the monkeys but again they did not look at the brains to see what happened

Please as with the other guy bring REAL PROOF to the table
You have your head so far up your ass your grasping at straws to try to prove a point that was not conclusivly proved in those later studies
Fucking read the studies asswipe I did and know what they say. you obviously did not
Ok so the NORML facts posted on montana's fuckin website isnt proof?
wtf?
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