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Old 07-04-2014, 10:23 AM
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Old 07-04-2014, 12:11 PM
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Old 07-04-2014, 12:19 PM
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This guy knows his stuff. I would quibble about the focus on STR, I go HP/STA/DEX/STR. I know STA doesn't really matter at low levels, but dex is important and the thing about STR is you get a ton of it anyway on gear without trying.

Silver swiftblade is the single most important buy a young ranger can make. Archery is kind of useless, but in later levels if you've skilled up it can let you solo things with patience. As you level, get a tolans bracer, and a tolans hat. Get a swarmcaller. If you can root/snare a melee mob, you can kill it with arrows eventually.
Assuming it doesn't summon, anyway.
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Old 07-04-2014, 02:38 PM
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This guy knows his stuff. I would quibble about the focus on STR, I go HP/STA/DEX/STR. I know STA doesn't really matter at low levels, but dex is important and the thing about STR is you get a ton of it anyway on gear without trying.

Silver swiftblade is the single most important buy a young ranger can make. Archery is kind of useless, but in later levels if you've skilled up it can let you solo things with patience. As you level, get a tolans bracer, and a tolans hat. Get a swarmcaller. If you can root/snare a melee mob, you can kill it with arrows eventually.
Do you have any evidence that Dex is more impactful than STR? Str has a noticeable impact on DPS via max hit, but particularly for non-bow combat I have no idea why you'd pay attention to dex at all.
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Old 07-04-2014, 02:48 PM
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I stack dex for the swarmcaller proc - no amount of dps or regen or is gonna help me (melee) solo my guy at 55 if I don't get that proc. Otherwise, I find it fairly useless until /disc true.
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Makes sense. Do you know how much additional % to proc you get out of the additional dex?
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Old 07-04-2014, 03:11 PM
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No, it's probably all a combination of superstition, guesswork, and confirmation bias. No good numbers at all.

I could probably go thru logs and show that after I glove-buff my shaman, he procs OT hammer more quickly on average than without the dex boost, but that's all the real math I could provide. And even then, without combing thru the logs it's still anecdotal.
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Old 07-04-2014, 03:19 PM
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Makes sense. Do you know how much additional % to proc you get out of the additional dex?
always stack dex when you need a proc ;P
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Old 07-04-2014, 03:24 PM
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Epic procs stop me from ranger gating solo so yeah I pump dex atm, but I figure 215 str self buffed is decent.

Bow shot for 2x dmg. Pull somewhere safe. Root, immolate, and swarm dot.
Run in and melee for awhile with regen + DS and hope for a slow proc.
Curse the gods when Earthcaller doesn't proc, re-root before my hp gets to 10%.
Dot, dot, and sit on med ticks and shoot arrows in between.
Regen to 40-50% and get back into melee. Eventually the mob runs.
Snare it and swap to Runed Blade trying to get a rune proc for next fight.
Heal up and do it again.
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Is it worth leveling up fletching or should you just stick to cheap arrows / tolan's bracer 46+?
I'm really stodgy/picky about ranger-ing (as you can probably see in this thread).

But if you don't bring 350 range to the table (group/raid), you're doing it wrong, imo.

That said, Tolan's arrows are great for day-to-day use.

(also, you don't need to fletch 150 range arrows - see Wiki for "Flight Arrow")
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