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Old 06-30-2014, 05:43 PM
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What answer is that? That I believe in free will and that most problems are from humans being doofuses? There. You have it.
So you still view your good as both supremely moral and omnipotent as he sits back watching a child being raped and doesn't do anything about it because he either a. Refuses to or b. Can't.

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We are debating the merits of government policy. Certainly, people come for disparate backgrounds and that bears consideration into what the policy should be. However, an idea itself should NEVER be evaluated on who gave it. This is what you are doing. It's like saying we should disown calculus because Newton was privileged.
Bad Strawman. In Newton's time only the privileged had access to good (admittedly subjective) education. And yes, biases should absolutely be considered when ideas are evaluated.
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Old 06-30-2014, 05:45 PM
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Choosing to terminate an employee you've already hired, presumably because they were the most qualified candidate for the job, because of any reason that doesn't impact their ability to continue to perform their job at a high level is medieval.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. There still plenty of things to try. Now grab a squeegee from the gas station, throw it in a bucket, add a some dish soap, bit of water. Baby, you've got a business going.
whoa whoa whoa. When I was ten a kid I knew got brutally beaten and had his money taken from the lemonade stand he tried to set up. What part of inner city didn't you comprehend? More privilege showing.
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whoa whoa whoa. When I was ten a kid I knew got brutally beaten and had his money taken from the lemonade stand he tried to set up. What part of inner city didn't you comprehend? More privilege showing.
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Tell us again where Elethia was wrong?
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Old 06-30-2014, 05:54 PM
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whoa whoa whoa. When I was ten a kid I knew got brutally beaten and had his money taken from the lemonade stand he tried to set up. What part of inner city didn't you comprehend? More privilege showing.
so buy a piece and protect yourself
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Old 06-30-2014, 05:55 PM
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So you still view your good as both supremely moral and omnipotent as he sits back watching a child being raped and doesn't do anything about it because he either a. Refuses to or b. Can't.
Have you never seen The Problem of Evil addressed? Aquinas deal with this hundreds of years ago. Goodness and morality stem from the being who created those concepts, and truly free will enables the perversion of that.

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Biases should absolutely be considered when ideas are evaluated.
Biases should be considered in determining 1) HOW a person arrived that a conclusion and 2) what their possible motives might be.

Biases have zero bearing on the merit of a particular argument. 2 + 2 = 4 no matter who says it.
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Old 06-30-2014, 05:56 PM
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Tell us again where Elethia was wrong?
Ever heard of a 'stoop'?
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so buy a piece and protect yourself
With what money? Welcome to the vicious cycle of poverty.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:01 PM
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Have you never seen The Problem of Evil addressed? Aquinas deal with this hundreds of years ago. Goodness and morality stem from the being who created those concepts, and truly free will enables the perversion of that.
TL;DR God doesn't give a shit about the kid and neither do you.

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Biases should be considered in determining 1) HOW a person arrived that a conclusion and 2) what their possible motives might be.

Biases have zero bearing on the merit of a particular argument. 2 + 2 = 4 no matter who says it.
Good to know you consider human lives to be precisely quantifiable objects. Despite that, they are not. A better comparison would be 200-2billion + 200-2billion = 400-4billion no matter who says it.
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