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[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You should probably try posting some then. That was a rant about personal preference, not fact.

Isn't that what creationists say when presented with facts? Just ignore them and ask for different ones? Good job!

(My phone browser keeps fucking up quoting so I'm going to have to quintuple post to reply to things)

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by p99soundsok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and those below the owner are enslaved at the place of business? they are unable to look for other jobs and then leave said oppressive job? good gawd you people are useless

Don't know where you live, but around here there aren't a ton of jobs to go around. Look at how saturated healthcare services are for example.

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Absolutely. I do not live under the old covenant, thus I am not bound by the law of ceremony.



The employee has the right to quit at any time, and the employer has the right to fire at any time. These are co-equal rights. No one is trumping anything.

Others have properly addressed this, your spoiler post doesn't change the fact that you pick and choose what is convenient for you to find sacred. Jesus had literally nothing to say about homosexuals and was clearly anti-capitalist.

As for the first half of your post: see my previous post.

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by p99soundsok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

too many people are so anti-corporate because they are butthurt and impoverished. they simply cannot contemplate our ability to freedom and being able to choose whatever job we want and quite whatever job we want.

Your privilege is showing.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by DeruIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't that what creationists say when presented with facts? Just ignore them and ask for different ones? Good job!

(My phone browser keeps fucking up quoting so I'm going to have to quintuple post to reply to things)

Actually that's what all humans do on certain levels. You're certainly not exempt from that.

[bigsykedaddy]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In other words, he has picked and chosen which parts of the Old Testament are able to mesh most conveniently with contemporary western culture.

Why can't you just admit that when Christianity spread to radically different cultures, it was adapted to fit the local customs? Eastern Orthodox for the slavs and greeks, Catholicism for Latin Europe, and Protestantism for the Nords and Germans. Then we get spin like supersessionism, or theology designed to explain why the same words from the same prophet mean different things to different people at different times.

"I don't follow that part of original Christianity, because God told the Israelites to do that, and I'm not an Israelite."

What really boggles my mind is how evangelicals and other protestants can reconcile U.S capitalist culture with Jesus' teachings.

I am not a Christian but I do know a thing or two about how they operate. When Jesus was born and then died on the cross , he fulfilled the old testament bringing in the new law and the new testament in which people were supposed to obey.

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by p99soundsok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

step 1: read the constitution
step 2: either you're too fucking dumb to realize how this should be resolved
step 3: or you're smart enough to realize that our country was founded on the basis of personal freedom

1. Do you even establishment clause bro?
2. Implying it wasn't resolved correctly. You are correct in that implication.
3. Corporations aren't persons. The people they employ however, are.
4. Templates like that are forbidden.

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Abs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People say this term in an effort to insult or go against a certain set of people all while enjoying a life using "created" items themselves, interesting how ignorance works sometimes.

Elaborate please. Or you making an appeal?

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by DeruIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Others have properly addressed this, your spoiler post doesn't change the fact that you pick and choose what is convenient for you to find sacred. Jesus had literally nothing to say about homosexuals and was clearly anti-capitalist.

As for the first half of your post: see my previous post.

No, others have not satisfactorily explained why it is necessary to impinge upon the freedom of association to outlaw all morally wrong activities.

As to the side conversation:

 

Regarding theology and convenience, you are completely ignoring any form of reasoned analysis and you're refusing to engage in any attempts to understand the mechanics of salvation and Christian covenants. Using the words "literally" and "clearly" doesn't make up for your dearth of analysis. It certainly is convenient the law works out that way isn't it? It's also convenient that God loves us. It's almost as if things were set up for our benefit.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spoilered to reduce the derailing of the main thread.

 

Framing Supersessionism and similar doctrines as spin does not make them that. They exist as doctrine because they are often reasonable explanations for the now non-binding nature of much of the Levitical law. It may not persuade you, but they generally are a large part of the Christian faith.

Jesus spoke (MATTHEW 15:11), and Paul wrote about this frequently (ROMANS 7:6, for example). Given Christ's record on the subject, I'd say following in his lead on the old covenant is far from intellectually dishonest. Paul directly rebuts the soteriological value of keeping the law (GALATIONS 2:16). Thus, I'm wearing my comfy multi-fiber shirt.

That said, perhaps my interpretation is wrong and I am in sin by not keeping the law. If this is so, then I repent and beg the Father for forgiveness in my ignorance for I "know not what I do," and I throw myself at the feet of Christ.

is that in the supreme court's ruling?