Why Nihilum won’t go to a DKP system.

[Jib]

im going fishing its nice out be back in a bit

[Gaffin 7.0]

nice novels will save for a rainy day

[Kergan]

Pretty good OP by Pikrib in forumquest terms tbo. This post might bump it to page 8, well done.

[Genedin]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm swimming in loot from red dawn feels real good

stereotypes exist for a reason

[Super Hater]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nihilum tries to say they use a DKP system,



when in actuality it is a loot council where the officer core decides who gets loot.



There are several reasons that Nihilum tries to make people think that they use a DKP system now. Everyone knows that DKP systems are fairer. In a DKP system every person who shows up to raids acquires DKP and then is allowed to spend that DKP on specific loot that they want for their main or alt.

In Nihilum this is not the case. They don’t let you get loot unless it’s for a main, and then you have to purchase items for alts with plat. The Nihilum FQers will say that the cash goes to buying components; peridots, emeralds, sky/hate stones etc. I’m sure Nihilum had over a mil in plat. That was enough to keep them going for years. Why not allow people to spend DKP on pixels that they helped Nihilum earn?

The reason is very simple. It’s greed.

In Velious Nihilum says they will go to a “bid” DKP system instead of their current loot council. This is simply untrue. If they wanted to do a DKP system they would have done it by now. This is the perfect time to test a new DKP system instead of trying to drop it when Velious releases. By testing it now they could make changes and tweaks before Velious drops. The Nihilum leadership who farmed this box for years feels they deserve loot more than some new guy who showed up in the last few months. They will even change DKP logs to try to fool new members if they have to.


By only giving loot to mains the leadership is able to keep a majority of the pixel farmed and profits from those pixels to themselves. They can use their loyal members to keep farming items, and not allow members to spend their hard earned DKP on items they helped farm. Leadership can even RMT items or plat for real cash if they can’t afford that case of Mt. Dew and hot pockets. Nihilum leadership gains nothing by using DKP, and the inner core looses free slave labor.

tl:dr version
Pikrib was bored at work and wanted to start a new thread.

Wow. Who cares? Don't join the guild? You only need to read the first couple sentences to figure out its some whiny nerd shit.

[Pikrib]

The Great Milenko
Alright sorry this took so long. It doesn’t only affect me, it affects the whole server. 99 percent of the loot on this server is funneled through Nihilum greedy hands.

This was Nihilum guild bank sales document:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...qdEhZQmc#gid=0

Notice the first item on the list and you can see the price gouging going on. Cleric trak BP=600k plat.

600,000pp 600,000pp 600,000pp once more for good measure 600,000pp! One item on the list will supply Nihilum’s raid costs for a year. (where is the rest of the cash going?)

You basically had to sell out and join Nihilum to get anything good on this server. Or you could farm plat till your eyes bled and you got carpel tunnel. Nihilum had a stranglehold on the server economy, and that is Y one shouldn’t just blindly join Nihilum. You’re feeding the machine and ruining the server.

If Nihilum used a true DKP system someone could spend DKP on said BP, and sell it for a reasonable price on the open market if they didn't want to use it anymore. Nihilum leadership does not allow this.

I’ll post more reasons later. I got work to do ATM.

[Kergan]

If you think 600k will cover a 50+ man raid force for a year you've never played in an EQ raiding guild.

[Pikrib]

Do you think 600k is reasonable for a track BP. A mob u can down twice a week.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Sky keys now cost like 400p each (blended) and soul stones cost 200+ each. Shits expensive.


That and dots. Lots of dots.

It's expensive to run any raiding guild.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you think 600k is reasonable for a track BP. A mob u can down twice a week.

What you don't see is the member price. I'll give you an example from the current spreadsheet not yet released to the public.

Singing Steel Breastplate Out of guild price: 40000 Member price: 15000

So yeah, we don't really want to sell shit out of the guild unless it's garbage we don't want. If someone wants to make a retarded insane offer on something like a cleric BP we'll do it but that same 600k BP was going to members for 15k.