Class "R" rotation and Sky about to fall apart

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by PsychoTass [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why should YOU have any say in anything? You go from TMO hater to nut sucker overnight. Now you seem to think people forgot your whiny ass posts frothing with rage rage cuz tmo took your merbs!

All things change with time, sir.

If you really think this incarnation of TMO is the same as the one from 2 to 3 years ago then I won't bother responding to you further.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by contemptor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's the thing, I don't care if you want to javspam or live your life through EQ. You can't create rules to reduce immersion/obsession. In the long run, you all will find a way to ensure you get your pixels regardless of the 'dedication' required. That's why you are in class C. But to imply that because BDA has a large member base and the core has played for a while, doesn't mean we should be required to stoop to that level to raid.

This is fallacy as always. You make the raid scene easier and BDA always finds excuses not to compete.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

new lore detected, but how reliable is the source!

It isn't we are talking about Ambrotos here.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you really going to keep attempting to prevent new guilds from joining the rotation like you tried with genocidal tendencies?

would love to see proof of this.


also, for all you young aspiring guilds, no players can tell you you're not allowed to kill mobs. if your guild is not locked out, you can race any other guild to that mob. so if you feel that the dirty wizards behind the curtain are not being fair, then talk with a few other guild leaders to see if they feel the same way. maybe you're a lil crazy, or maybe others will feel the same way.

the rotation is player made and enforced, so no guilds are forced to be a part of this if they do not want to be. that being said, its kinda hard to say chest is doing anything shady with the rotation unless hes the world greatest lil secret keeper. if he was doing unfair or underhanded acts, it would cause guilds to buck the rotation, and start a revolution.

Class R is whatever Class R wants it to be, be that a friendly sharing rotation, or, a cutthroat race vs other Class R guilds. we as a staff created a system that allows for one or both or those.

[PsychoTass]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All things change with time, sir.

If you really think this incarnation of TMO is the same as the one from 2 to 3 years ago then I won't bother responding to you further.

The only thing that changed is which team you play for.
Your lackluster response confirms that.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Torino [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You act like TMO and IB are just itching to share the rotation.
The Class R rotation is people getting together and figuring out a way to share.

That is not what TMO wants.
They want what gives them the most lewt.

I never said TMO or IB wanted anything to do with any rotation. My only concern with regards to rotations is that you can't exclude any up and coming guilds and that guilds can't just stay in class R forever.

There should atleast be guilds attempting to progress.

I mean BDA killed VP dragons in 2011 or something right? Lol why are they still class R?

[Ambrotos]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol @ ambrotos always gunning for me whenever I speak about BDA

You know we actually have a solid raid system worked out here now and BDA is doing everything they can to bring back the stagnant raid scene we used to have. Why defend them? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't gun for singular people. If it looks like I do, I do for the stupid fucks who guild hop and jump on other people's coat tails because they can't accomplish anything more than sucking their new guild's dick in RnF and crying every fucking time. You were a useless player at level 40 and every single guild vd/bda/fe/tmo you have been in.

Look at the very same posts you made a year ago. Or hell up till you decided to beg to join TMO so they could keep carrying you around. You would make post after post about how unfair it was because your guild sucked and couldn't stand up to TMO in the raid scene. Cried for change, cried because whatever you did, you just were a tag along.

It's not what I wanted, or how hard Sirken and Deru tried to make it their way. It's what Rogean and Nilbog want's for the server and that vision.

If the Class R people feel there is an issue, they can raid whatever they want and say fuck their player made agreement and kill as many mobs as they want as long as they follow the lock out. Each and every single one of those guilds has the ability to team up and fuck the others over.

Rogean decided a two player type set up would be best. If guilds want to move up and play 24hr pixel quest then they can. Or they can play and not worry about having to raid against an established guild and relive classic eq encounters by working it out with the other guilds.

It's not your choice, nor your fight to even question the other raiding section. Go back sucking the ecocks of the better players than you, in the very same guild you hated so bad a few months ago. It's like you have abused girlfriend syndrome.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is fallacy as always. You make the raid scene easier and BDA always finds excuses not to compete.

in bda's defense (slap me bc idk why im defending bda) they have said a thousand times that they simply do not want to compete. i mean for most of our guilds it is already a chore to convince people that its worth their time to log on at 5am to kill an imaginary dragon and thats when the kill is guaranteed by the class R rotation. so you remove the guaranteed kill and you enter an environment where youre going to lose 9 out of every 10 attempts to the fanatics, then you finally get that 1 in 10 kill and the only result is a bunch of people shit talking your guild and your members and putting you on blast on the forums. i mean the top tier guilds on this server have never fostered an environment for friendly competition, it always turns toxic between the entities competing.

[Torino]

I think you have some odd reasoning as to what seperates class R and C.

Class C guilds are the hardcore raiders, they raid most days out of the week.

BDA ( no matter HOW long they have been killing stuff) is a casual guild.

If they wanted to be hardcore gamers, I am sure they "could" move up to class C, but the member base/leadership seems to be ok with where they are at now...Why force them up? Should an entire guild have to change their play style because your 2nd,3rd or 4th alt cant get the gear it wants?

Don't get me wrong, I am all about guilds ( ALL ) being able to compete just like the others, but like I said earlier...there is not going to be a way to make 100% of everyone happy

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

would love to see proof of this.


also, for all you young aspiring guilds, no players can tell you you're not allowed to kill mobs. if your guild is not locked out, you can race any other guild to that mob. so if you feel that the dirty wizards behind the curtain are not being fair, then talk with a few other guild leaders to see if they feel the same way. maybe you're a lil crazy, or maybe others will feel the same way.

the rotation is player made and enforced, so no guilds are forced to be a part of this if they do not want to be. that being said, its kinda hard to say chest is doing anything shady with the rotation unless hes the world greatest lil secret keeper. if he was doing unfair or underhanded acts, it would cause guilds to buck the rotation, and start a revolution.

Class R is whatever Class R wants it to be, be that a friendly sharing rotation, or, a cutthroat race vs other Class R guilds. we as a staff created a system that allows for one or both or those.

and another thing, nobody in Class R can punish anyone else in Class R for receiving help from other Class R or even Class C guilds. If a guild has the political savvy to get the other Class R or Class C guilds to assist them, then more power to them.

Remember, the staff has the full right and authority to push a guild into Class C if we feel it's needed to preserve Class R as a whole, or if we find a guild abusing the privilege of being in Class R.