Rogue Questions...

[Ridic]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I come from the exact opposite end of this debate, in that I dunno anything about the mechanics, and only know about this stuff from actually doing it.. I noticed that with the BRapier in offhand, I would generally generate more aggro than with a gold plated koshigatana (vs a non-summoned mob). Also, the trident (elemental as well?) generates more aggro than crystalline spear by FAR.

Sooooo, I only know anecdotal things, but it seemed fairly cut and dry to me.

So, from that end, would just getting a EBW for the Offhand, and using PSD in main be better then Poon MH/PSD OH?

[Slayde]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Make a barbarian, dump into stamina. STR is easy to get to 188 (+67 from shm buff = 255 cap), and sta is the only other stat you need to worry about. Spec your gear to str 188 and then the rest to hps. Don't make some other race unless you're an RP fag (like me, who made a dwarf for nostalgia). Slam alone is worth having to look like a barbarian instead of that "leet" half elf, or whatever your gay roommate says you should play - not to mention the amazing starting stats. Dwarves are a close second or even superior with stats but do not have slam. These should really be the only races you choose from.

Its true, if your purely stat based barbarians make the best rogues. But I still think the stats alone arent worth being a big bumbling thug. Unless of course thats what you want hehe. Its not that hard to compensate for low starting stats. Also Hasbin, you can't deny im pretty "leet" for a half elf =P

Also unless its been fixed in the past few months and I didnt notice. Sense/disarm traps does not work. Back in feb/march I was doing everything I could to practice those (axe gullotine in SolA for example) and they never went up in skill. I think its like disarm, just borked.

[Lazortag]

That's weird, I have sense traps maxed out on my Bard. It's just that it's never actually sensed a trap.

[Slayde]

After logging in and checking, your right Lazortag. Apparently I maxed my sense traps as well and forgot. I guess its just disarm traps thats broken hehe

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Ridic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, from that end, would just getting a EBW for the Offhand, and using PSD in main be better then Poon MH/PSD OH?

No. 10dam > 8dam in mainhand.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Slayde [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its true, if your purely stat based barbarians make the best rogues. But I still think the stats alone arent worth being a big bumbling thug. Unless of course thats what you want hehe. Its not that hard to compensate for low starting stats. Also Hasbin, you can't deny im pretty "leet" for a half elf =P

Also unless its been fixed in the past few months and I didnt notice. Sense/disarm traps does not work. Back in feb/march I was doing everything I could to practice those (axe gullotine in SolA for example) and they never went up in skill. I think its like disarm, just borked.

You have sick gear, so you can get your str up, but how many hps do you have, and how many hps WOULD you have if you didn't need to compensate for low starting str? It's not JUST the X # of hps you get from the race, it's how many items you have to use for str that you could have used for hps..

That being said, IF you never get hit, you're just as effective as any rogue of any race with the same str/weapon profile. That's a pretty big if tho! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Nox]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I come from the exact opposite end of this debate, in that I dunno anything about the mechanics, and only know about this stuff from actually doing it.. I noticed that with the BRapier in offhand, I would generally generate more aggro than with a gold plated koshigatana (vs a non-summoned mob). Also, the trident (elemental as well?) generates more aggro than crystalline spear by FAR.

Sooooo, I only know anecdotal things, but it seemed fairly cut and dry to me.

I’m the same way. I go with what I see works the best during combat. When our ‘usual’ tank is around, he can keep aggro even if I wield my proc’ing SBD. I know it’s a sin to use a SBD after lvl 26, but I have no problems. When our tank is absent, I have to switch to a Obsidian Shard or some non-proc’ing weapon to avoid aggro.

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pick up a gloom poon. Max damage stat in mainhand is #1 priority. Offhand is pure ratio. Don't let anyone tell you different. If you can get someone to kill phinny for you, the TotSS is a nice mainhand till you can nab an eyerazzia or even better a crystalline spear. Other than TotSS, don't ever use a proc weapon, they are not worth it. If you DO obtain the trident, watch your aggro more.

This is where I get a little confused. I thought you wanted to have a lower delay in your mainhand, and for that reason, my Gloomwater harpoon is in my offhand. I wield an Obsidian Shard, a SBD, or Jambiya in my mainhand, atm. Should I switch those around?

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Burning rapier is a fun quest, but imho, the aggro from the proc isn't worth the small ratio upgrade from other similar offhands. Gloom Poon and PSD >.

And this is why I have yet to complete the entire questline.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Nox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is where I get a little confused. I thought you wanted to have a lower delay in your mainhand, and for that reason, my Gloomwater harpoon is in my offhand. I wield an Obsidian Shard, a SBD, or Jambiya in my mainhand, atm. Should I switch those around.

Yes, you need to switch those.

[Ridic]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. 10dam > 8dam in mainhand.

Poon is only 9dmg, and the PSD's ration is crazy better. Is why I ask.

[Ridic]

Originally Posted by Nox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is where I get a little confused. I thought you wanted to have a lower delay in your mainhand, and for that reason, my Gloomwater harpoon is in my offhand. I wield an Obsidian Shard, a SBD, or Jambiya in my mainhand, atm. Should I switch those around?

Best ratio weapon goes in your OH. Always. And Highest Damage(to dly) weapon should be mainhanded, for higher backstabs.
That's why Bone Razor is the best choice for OH in the game atm.

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