What makes Rangers worse tanks than Shadow Knights or Paladins?

[Daldaen]

While BFG may look cool or have a cool proc. It's damage absolutely blows.

Windstriker stays the best bow through Velious. The Sleeper's Tomb Bows and AoW bow are better, but it will be awhile before those become available.

[koros]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While BFG may look cool or have a cool proc. It's damage absolutely blows.

Windstriker stays the best bow through Velious. The Sleeper's Tomb Bows and AoW bow are better, but it will be awhile before those become available.

I'm not talking about using it in the range slot.

[Daldaen]

How does it function in the Primary slot as a bow exactly? I don't remember being around many people with them during Velious.

[koros]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How does it function in the Primary slot as a bow exactly? I don't remember being around many people with them during Velious.

It can double attack and gets haste and checks against archery skill for damage.

[fadetree]

AND gets boosted by TS, naturally.

[Daldaen]

Interdasting. Didn't know it was functional in the main hand. I see why they took it out now.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you and I should be equally successful at soloing a betabuffed enchanter through a Velious zone, right? Since we will have the same pixels? Since I've never honed a skill with all the days I've spent playing an enchanter in classic and kunark zones? Let's do it. I'll stream it!

Hey I'll accept that challenge, sounds like a good time to me.

Also sorry for derailing this thread, as a ranger main from live rangers are the tits.

[Ciroco]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While BFG may look cool or have a cool proc. It's damage absolutely blows.

Windstriker stays the best bow through Velious. The Sleeper's Tomb Bows and AoW bow are better, but it will be awhile before those become available.

Purely damage wise, there will be many bows better than Windstriker. Wind Saber already is if you shell out the cash for good arrows.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally don't care what dps tier I'm in, I just enjoy rangering. We do get better in Velious, but not enough to displace the traditional favorites, many of whom also get better. The removal of the exp penalty, addition of panic animal, and some melee and spell ATK upgrades put us in a much better position. I'm looking forward to it. Part of what I like about rangers is the difficulty, so if they got too much better I probably wouldn't enjoy it as much.

This person knows what he is talking about. A Ranger is a HARD class to play without dying. You know and I know they, like a lot of classes, they are squishy. I have said on here before they are a cat and mouse class. And they are the cat. They have so many good tools if you know how to play one its scary. It takes skill to play one and I mean a lot of skill, but it is so rewarding to do it. It is not some class you just sit there and spam a spell or hit a button with. You have to think, its like a chess game, and that is what is exciting about them. They will be fun as hell to play in Velious.

I had a duel epic one on live, probably got the epics in the Velious expansion, I don't remember, long time ago, and it was a killing machine solo. Not a fast killing machine, but it got the job done. Snare is a GOOD thing, it makes some stuff happen that you can only do on a few classes. But with snare and their bow, if you know how to play one, you hardly get hit over 40% of the fight. And you will kiss their butts to track for you in Velious.

[Trosh]

I dunno if any1 has written this, or if the server admins have done something funky with the AC algorithms, but the way AC worked for the longest time is based on the type and class.
You take total ac, and then depending on your class only a certain percentage of it actually counts.
Warriors get 90% effectiveness
other plate is 75% or 80%
chain 50%
leather 25%
cloth 10%

so a warrior with 1000 AC effectively has 900 AC, where a wizard with 1000 AC effectively has 100, and a Ranger's 1000 AC would only be 500

the only thing that is counted as "Hard AC" meaning it has 100% effectiveness are certain buffs and shields. This allows Pallies and SK's to have a nice boost because they use shields, and most priest classes can as well to help if they are bad at dealing with heal agro.

Like I said in the beginning tho, this was how Sony did AC for the first years, leading up well past PoP. It has been changed at some point on live servers as avoidance tanking is almost more important then AC, and I'm not positive when they made the swap - whether before or after titanium.