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[cams]

No, I'm saying you guys requesting compensation for a mob you lost nothing on, and refusing a free shot at that same mob (because Nexona sucks) but instead requesting 3 completely unrelated mobs uncontested is a punishment that is not proportional to the crime. However, now when dealing with BDA you feel that they are being unreasonable for requesting compensation greater than what they lost. At the very least it seems BDA should get a free shot at one of TMO's mobs, much like TMO was requesting a free shot at additional mobs for a train from IB.

TMO gets trained, but still kills them mob = we should get 3 mobs of our choosing in VP.

TMO trains another guild = they lost nothing, so why should we be willing to offer more than our monk pulling for them.

These two stances are incompatible with reaching an amicable resolution between guilds.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by cams [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I'm saying you guys requesting compensation for a mob you lost nothing on, and refusing a free shot at that same mob (because Nexona sucks) but instead requesting 3 completely unrelated mobs uncontested is a punishment that is not proportional to the crime. However, now when dealing with BDA you feel that they are being unreasonable for requesting compensation greater than what they lost. At the very least it seems BDA should get a free shot at one of TMO's mobs, much like TMO was requesting a free shot at additional mobs for a train from IB.

TMO gets trained, but still kills them mob = we should get 3 mobs of our choosing in VP.

TMO trains another guild = they lost nothing, so why should we be willing to offer more than our monk pulling for them.

These two stances are incompatible with reaching an amicable resolution between guilds.

Again someone lied to you. I feel bad that you ate that lie up so easy.

[Olidaen_Delacroix]

IB KS draco by mistake, they don't touch the body and port out. No harm was done to TMO. IB is suspended for 2 weeks.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Olidaen_Delacroix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IB KS draco by mistake, they don't touch the body and port out. No harm was done to TMO. IB is suspended for 2 weeks.

IB looted the corpse and checked it. Saw it had no BCGs and then ported out without discussing the issue of a 2nd KS in 3 days with officers in the guild. It's hard to mistake an FTE shout. They guy with the FTE shout was guild tagged this time too. You guys had 2 players in zone when the FTE shout went out. Claiming a mistake and lying about not checking the corpse is comical.

[Olidaen_Delacroix]

Someone lied to you. I feel bad that you ate that lie up so easy.

[cams]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again someone lied to you. I feel bad that you ate that lie up so easy.

Please enlighten us then Lazie, what did happen? Keep in mind I got my information from personal conversations with both IB and TMO officers who were actually involved in negotiation. You'll excuse me if I hold their information in a bit higher regard than some scrub who has been here 6 months and whose main role in TMO is playing forum warrior.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by cams [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please enlighten us then Lazie, what did happen? Keep in mind I got my information from personal conversations with both IB and TMO officers who were actually involved in negotiation. You'll excuse me if I hold their information in a bit higher regard than some scrub who has been here 6 months and whose main role in TMO is playing forum warrior.

Really ? Share the information then. What you have is a lie you are telling. I call your bluff sir.

[cams]

Umm, I already did share the information? You said it was a lie. For this to work you need to tell me what part of it is a lie. Are you really this dumb?

[Lazie]

As for information from an IB officer...Well they generally lie to their members about what actually happens..That was evident to anyone who saw what Getsome posted during the merger talks on your very boards. I don't doubt at all that is the story IB officers told.

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by cams [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An issue that seems to be lost on by some people in this thread is the proportionality of the punishment vs. the crime when negotiating between guilds. TMO believes that because they trained a raid

Can you please explain what BDA was raiding in Fear? I'm fairly certain that Draco and CT weren't even in window at the time of this incident, meaning there was no "raiding" going on. It was two groups of people, one person stepped out of line and has been internally punished by TMO for his actions. This was not a raid, so asking for raid punishment is ridiculous.