What makes Rangers worse tanks than Shadow Knights or Paladins?

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The correct Ranger answer is: You root the mob, step back to lead the Warrior to believe he finally got aggro off you, and then spam heal yourself with your shitty ranger heal while the warrior is feeling like a man for getting to tank.

This man knows what he is talking about. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But on paper a Ranger IS a solo class. They have all the tools to do it, and that is what they are good at. Come Velious they will be over the top. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tasslehofp99]

Fear animal spells in velious for rangers, might be tempted to roll one between that and weaponsheild!

[fadetree]

Yah, weaponshield is nice for raids or named encounters. Panic animal - meh, you get tired of looking at rhinoceros ass. Its something to do while lfg though.

[Troxx]

In early eq (ie pre-pop) a reasonably geared ranger can tank ok for a full or partial group for most content. You won't be an efficient target to heal but you will be better than many classes and can hold aggro very well. In any real head to head comparison though .. No match for an equally geared warrior or knight.

Come velious and the removal of class xp penalties things will be better, but in the end. You can at least fear kite animals solo.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All I know is a beta buffed 60 ranger got worked over pretty decently trying to kill the stupid level 40 paladin key dude in skyshrine. I mean, I'm no ranger pro, but I was clicking my DCOS and using dots and slow from epic procced and shit. And I think I ended the fight at like 50% hp and nearly oom.

Damn glad I didn't roll a Ranger here. Made that mistake on live.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Rangers have some 20% fewer HP than Shadowknights and Paladins
2. Rangers are ~100AC behind as well
3. 1 + 2 -> Cleric spends 40% more mana healing
4. Rangers can tank most xp group content just fine if there is a shaman around

u still thinking like a damm enchanter.

if u get a ranger paladin sk what u do is skip shaman and add a a rogue ,p

u know something like cleric enc (the puller) ranger and x3 rogues, and u all set[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Arteker]

Velious high end ranger is a absolute dps monster.

1: their atk natural get bosted.
2: their weapon skill get bigger.
3: they can stack up aura of battles items so bigger atk.
4: they get extra atk buffs.
5: hybrid spell casting help them to even nuke better btw mele swings and not lose dmg.
6: primal will add more atk to ranger.
7: Velious 2hs revamp make a ranger real dps become 2 hander usable to greater effect due to being the class with higher atk in game .

do not confuse actual lamenes of 2 hander in current game with what they become later in velious.

a high end 2 hander dps ranger in velious if not use as cannon fodder for weapon shield , something irrelavtrn with mallets and clikys uses, can be easily pull in more dmg than monks with 2handers and tripple atatck and closing in to rogues more than they would like .

[sox7d]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

u still thinking like a damm enchanter.

if u get a ranger paladin sk what u do is skip shaman and add a a rogue ,p

u know something like cleric enc (the puller) ranger and x3 rogues, and u all set[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Side-note/tangent: I had this group comp in MM 2 weeks ago. Two rogues (epic'd) were tabbed out half the fights, the cleric had an attitude, barely remembered to sit and the enchanter would try to mez things his pet was blatantly attacking without trying to call it off. We wiped a couple times. It was heart breaking

Couple days ago did ranger, monk, monk, bard. Chain pulled red cons in CoM and never had downtime.

A good composition can't beat experienced players.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Two rogues (epic'd) were tabbed out half the fights

Epic rogue twinks are entitled, whiny, bad players.

[Frug]

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Side-note/tangent: I had this group comp in MM 2 weeks ago.

...and the enchanter would try to mez things his pet was blatantly attacking without trying to call it off.

Mezzing something his pet was attacking is unforgiveable, but how would you suggest the chanter "call off" his pet?