Petition to Rogean: Rename 'Raid Discussion' to 'Officer Rants and Flames''

[Ambrotos]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You actually don't know the server rules that you were a GM of ? Interesting.

2. You must comply with arbitration for contested spawns.

There are cases where two or more groups wish to kill the same NPC or hunt in the same area. In these cases, the groups are required to compromise.

If an equitable compromise cannot be reached between the players prior to Project 1999 Customer Service Staff involvement, the P99CSR will mandate a compromise. Any such compromise is final and not open to debate. Refusing to abide by these terms will be considered disruption and may result in disciplinary action.

It is therefore strongly suggested that the groups make every attempt to reach a compromise that they can live with prior to involving a P99CSR, who may mandate a compromise that does not suit you to the extent that a player-devised compromise would.

Note: A "group" in this case is defined as a party of one or more characters that are united in a common belief or goal and are capable of completing that goal.


Now this is a recent update via Derubael so you may not know about it.

Just stop. Someone really needs to pull your chain back and call you off.

Area ≠ Entire zone. Using your logic someone could zone into guk and say they want to kill a frog and don't want anyone else to and can petition.

[Hitpoint]

I think BDA should be mad about this. But I see no reason why this is any different than someone training a group in lower guk or kc. Except that Chest posted it in the raid discussion section, demanding attention.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just stop. Someone really needs to pull your chain back and call you off.

Area ≠ Entire zone. Using your logic someone could zone into guk and say they want to kill a frog and don't want anyone else to and can petition.

No it is you not understanding. The rules state a reasonable compromise. Try to actually read and understand. If people are being unreasonable (Which the leadership of BDA was in the case of fear) then it usually escalates to GMs being involved. You are the one that should stop now btw and take time to read and comprehend.

[Fael]

Ambrotos speaks the truth. Its come up before, and specifically stated that if there is a group in the tunnels, then ae group would have to pull around them and face consequences of training them.

Generally, guilds honor the fact that other people were in a zone. They either talk to them, or move on.

I guess BDA isnt going to honor that going forward, which is fine. But ignoring long standing customs may have an adverse effect on the current fear/hate raid scene.
They're attitude as an entire guild toward TMO players is pathetic, and its fostered ill will both ways. Im sick of it.


Dolic

[Tiggles]

Thread is getting off track, can we remember how Chest thinks he is a GM and if his guild muzzled him they might actually not be despised by the staff at large?

[Ambrotos]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe in the rules it's wrong, but no AE group has been stopped or punished for training a group doing Betrayer.

AE group has no claim because they are at zone in, but you'd also have to be an idiot to get intentionally trained to try and get the AE group in trouble.

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the end, aoeing chardok can be a disruption. Players have worked it out so there hasn't been an issue.

In the case of Chardok players have always worked it out great. Like I said there was never an issue about it and staff never had to get involved.

[Emsee]

As much as Dinacarl deserves whatever he gets for that, Chest deserves as much for his assanine response.

[Ambrotos]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it is you not understanding. The rules state a reasonable compromise. Try to actually read and understand. If people are being unreasonable (Which the leadership of BDA was in the case of fear) then it usually escalates to GMs being involved. You are the one that should stop now btw and take time to read and comprehend.

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[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it is you not understanding. The rules state a reasonable compromise. Try to actually read and understand. If people are being unreasonable (Which the leadership of BDA was in the case of fear) then it usually escalates to GMs being involved. You are the one that should stop now btw and take time to read and comprehend.

Are you competing for the most retarded person on the P99 forums? You'll have some stiff competition from Glenzig and r00t, but you're giving it a strong showing. Keep arguing about how sharing a zone is wrong when it has been shared literally hundreds of times in the past and you might just take gold.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you competing for the most retarded person on the P99 forums? You'll have some stiff competition from Glenzig and r00t, but you're giving it a strong showing. Keep arguing about how sharing a zone is wrong when it has been shared literally hundreds of times in the past and you might just take gold.

Uh I never said sharing the zone is wrong. I said specificially that you must share the spawns and can't manipulate them. You have to come to a reasonable compromise with other parties as they enter the zone. The people coming into the zone must compromise as well.