PvP pnp policy clarification please (GMs, devs, guides?)

[Softcore PK]

Gonna keep this short.

1. Fearing pets in dangerous dungeons, etc.
2. Fearing NPCs pvp targets are engaged with in dangerous dungeons, etc.
3. Fearing NPCs near pvp targets (not engaged) in dangerous dungeons, etc.

Kosher? From where I'm sitting it looks like training/intentional xp loss.

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[HippoNipple]

I like the fearing of the pet play, because the pet owner can do something about that, but running up and fearing a mob sounds pretty shitty.

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like the fearing of the pet play, because the pet owner can do something about that, but running up and fearing a mob sounds pretty shitty.

Pet owner can do something, but if they don't notice soon enough/aren't fast enough the result is still a train and probably xp loss.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

[R Flair]

Fearing a pet is pet owner responsibility. Fearing a mob someone is fighting is their problem as well. If someone just fears a mob in a dungeon near other players creating a train, thats training and great wrath should fall upon their anus.

[Xer0]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pet owner can do something, but if they don't notice soon enough/aren't fast enough the result is still a train and probably xp loss.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

Feels like if you aren't quick enough to react that shouldn't be on the other person. Even so I personally think it's nice when people don't start trains, but at the same time what's a person to do? Should a cleric facetank and waste mana nuking a necro pet? or use a simple crowd control spell to his advantage, one way or the other? None of the former are really strategically sound, so I personally wouldn't find any fault in a person for the latter.

[Softcore PK]

Fear classes all have other means of CC, like root and mez. Except I guess SK if we're not counting snare, but do we really need to allow them to fear pets and FD?

[Salaryman]

Training is part of what gives depth to pvp, I would not have rolled the class I have month back, before PnP bs, if I knew this would be banned its an intergral part of EQ.
If you wanna ban trains in pvp might aswell disable monks, necros and sk because they become so much less usefull.

[Youlath]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fear classes all have other means of CC, like root and mez. Except I guess SK if we're not counting snare, but do we really need to allow them to fear pets and FD?

clerics have fear and root, and pets still cast shit while they're rooted. fear is one million times better. just be faster at recognizing fear and dispel your pet faster or you deserve to die

[Not Salem]

fearing afk players pets is my go to strat

[Bazia]

Sirken has confirmed to me multiple times fearing mobs isn't training.

Or at least it wasn't before PnP