THE TIME IS NOW

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by moklianne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People make themselves out to be idiots all the time, those people are simply morons and Christians should do what they can to reign in on them because they are not helping their cause.

As far as not hearing about citizens of other faiths not being threatened, you must be blind because I read about it every day. There are places in the US where you do not want to be anything other than a Christian. Do you think its right to have a pagan author in florida shot at for simply being a witch?

Perhaps the worlds largest Christan faith is a good example to how Christians are supposed to treat others eh? You do realize that from the Vaticans own numbers, they claim that over 100,000 children and adults have been sexually abused by priests in the US ALONE. That's nearly 3% of the entire population.

Also, where did I say Muslims are saints? You need to work on your reading comprehension. What I am saying is that people use faith as the end all against logical thinking and 150+ years ago, Christians acted very similar to how Muslims act right now. It must be hard for Christians to be reminded of their bloody past in this way.

I am well aware of the history of Christianity. That's the main reason I've spent most of my life turning away from that faith. No, it isn't right what's happened to people over the centuries, nor is trying to shoot witches nowadays. Duh. Everyone who has any sense of decency knows that much.

But I tend to think more about the present and future because we can't do shit about the past now, can we? Except maybe try to learn from it. I basically jumped on your post because you stated that Christians try to "institute their own form of Sharia Law here". I'm sorry, but that statement is just ridiculous. Try reading up on what Sharia Law is and how it's implemented and you might see what I'm talking about.

Yeah, there are awful hated-filled Christians out there that do retarded shit like protesting funerals for gay people. I get it. But is it a Christian equivalent of Sharia Law? Not even close. Please show me some examples or something.

[Sidelle]

Oh god. Religion giving me a headache now, reading all dis shit. Lol

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone professing hate when what they want is love or acceptance... hilarious.

Doesn't matter your background or beliefs, if you go about it that way you'll always be wrong and get no where in your "movement".

If you learn the actualities of certain things rather than emphasizing the scope of generalizations amongst them, then perhaps you'll actually acquire the proper knowledge needed to speak intelligently.

seconded.

the big issue is the early christians platonized their religion in order to make it philosophically authoritative to thinking. problem is plato doesn't harmonize as nietzsche pointed out by inverting the cave parable in thus spoke zarathustra. traversing through nihilism has done a lot for my sense of being a person in a world that is bigger. or as heidegger put it (a course paraphrase) a being within Being where language (communication in general) houses everything.

sidelle i wasn't bashing you but pointing out that there are fundamentalists everywhere, and they are just the old school hard liners of their faiths. ever read the jefferson bible? he took out all the magic and miracles and left the positive ethics. it's way shorter and makes more sense.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Azure [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Faith does not need separation from logic. This is something people do.

Logic can be applied to faith. Faith can be evaluated by logic. Faith and logic work better in this capacity.

Faith is often considered separate from logic because once it is evaluated by logic, it quickly disperses.

[Super Hater]

With no government, you weak nerds would just be killed off by me. So just thank god there are police and government to protect you.

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by Azure [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Faith does not need separation from logic. This is something people do.

Logic can be applied to faith. Faith can be evaluated by logic. Faith and logic work better in this capacity.

Logic applied to the outcomes of faith on society and individuals can be applied, but I disagree that any faith stands up on its own when logic is applied to it. I include my own beliefs in that assessment.

There's a difference between applying logic to faith and questioning your faith. Everyone should always question their faith. It doesn't mean you are turning away from your faith, it means you are growing with it when so many others are not.

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by Writ3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone professing hate when what they want is love or acceptance... hilarious.

Doesn't matter your background or beliefs, if you go about it that way you'll always be wrong and get no where in your "movement".

If you learn the actualities of certain things rather than emphasizing the scope of generalizations amongst them, then perhaps you'll actually acquire the proper knowledge needed to speak intelligently.

I agree and I apologize to anyone (especially Sid) if I sounded too harsh.

This is one of those few topics that set me off being of what's considered a minority faith in the US, while the mainstream media seems to rarely cover anything other than Muslims being violent or violence against Christians.

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by Super Hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With no government, you weak nerds would just be killed off by me. So just thank god there are police and government to protect you.

What are YOU overcompensating for?