Red Server Threads, Blue Server Threads

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it really so bad?

Most of sincerely don't wish to breed any animosity. We just want blue friends to come check out how great the devs have made Red99. And there still seems to be a fair amount of confusion from blue about exactly what red is, as evidenced by the people in Deru's poll by post thread listing imaginary reasons for staying away.

A couple red posters really put a lot of time and effort into their recruitment posts, though that alone doesn't make it not spam. If those of you that aren't angry trolls are really feeling annoyed with us we can at least talk about it all civilized-like. The GM ruling is what it is and people always like to push the boundaries, but I'd totally be up for listening to concerns that aren't rooted in anger.

Looking at the front page I see RnF-style threads about ninjalooting, maps and the wizard class (along with tons of helpful/good threads) and I wonder why the red threads wouldn't belong.

Because they are separate servers with separate forums.

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has anyone seen a single thread on the red forums asking them to come play blue? Is that a thing we even want? :P

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=150323

As Deru said, it's in pretty poor taste considering our population is a fraction of blue's. Though we really just see posts like this as an opportunity to play around :P

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because they are separate servers with separate forums.

An appeal to authority is a pretty poor argument, but we're all the same project and this is part of the overall plan to get bluebies to come try out the red server. The GMs see our efforts as being important enough. If we even get one player to come over to red from our recruitment efforts here it will have been worthwhile imo.

But yeah I can see how it might be annoying when we've got 3+ recruitment posts (in all caps) on the front page here. Maybe we should calm down a bit, because it's obviously not in our best interests to get y'all super pissed at us.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

That post appears reactionary to the red99 recruitment posts. But yeah, it would get more toxic if not nipped in the bud now. Lot of the red99'rs are the early p99'rs (and vztz players) who caused quite a few issues. Fish Bait kinda guys. When they left the attitude of the high end became considerably more cordial until the sky wars of da/ib. Mostly because trans died an ignominous death after the constant first 15 / afk check faggotry.

edit: Also, planar protector status. I've wasted my life.

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That post appears reactionary to the red99 recruitment posts. But yeah, it would get more toxic if not nipped in the bud now. Lot of the red99'rs are the early p99'rs (and vztz players) who caused quite a few issues. Fish Bait kinda guys. When they left the attitude of the high end became considerably more cordial until the sky wars of da/ib. Mostly because trans died an ignominous death after the constant first 15 / afk check faggotry.

edit: Also, planar protector status. I've wasted my life.

Grats! 1k posts on elf sim forums is a huge accomplishment. You should tell your mom so she can be proud of you and shower with praise :P

Yeah red players are stereotyped as being childish and mean (omg elf discrimination) and some of us actually are those things, but honestly we're all equally human and that always causes problems. People are jerks on both servers, with the duping, hacking, ninja looting and all that jazz. Fish Bait lasted like 2 months on red before disbanding btw.

I really want more nice players on red. Not that we aren't mostly nice now, but a guild like Divinity would make me so happy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nihilum/TMO-type guilds aren't for everyone.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grats! 1k posts on elf sim forums is a huge accomplishment. You should tell your mom so she can be proud of you and shower with praise :P

Yeah red players are stereotyped as being childish and mean (omg elf discrimination) and some of us actually are those things, but honestly we're all equally human and that always causes problems. People are jerks on both servers, with the duping, hacking, ninja looting and all that jazz. Fish Bait lasted like 2 months on red before disbanding btw.

I really want more nice players on red. Not that we aren't mostly nice now, but a guild like Divinity would make me so happy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nihilum/TMO-type guilds aren't for everyone.

I would play red if there was an RP Anti-PK PvE guild.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grats! 1k posts on elf sim forums is a huge accomplishment. You should tell your mom so she can be proud of you and shower with praise :P

Yeah red players are stereotyped as being childish and mean (omg elf discrimination) and some of us actually are those things, but honestly we're all equally human and that always causes problems. People are jerks on both servers, with the duping, hacking, ninja looting and all that jazz. Fish Bait lasted like 2 months on red before disbanding btw.

I really want more nice players on red. Not that we aren't mostly nice now, but a guild like Divinity would make me so happy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nihilum/TMO-type guilds aren't for everyone.

The problem is the bad apples of red99 really keep people from remaining on red99. That and boredom for many people. The pk / anti pk crowd were pretty even on RZ. Relapse's signature is quite accurate for red99--swing on those nuts to reach nihilum dragon loots or get brought down by the pitchfork pvpers :P

Also, the banning of holocaust, while probs even worse people than nihil, aboslutely demolished competition on that server and has kept it like that ever since, really. One of the worst GM calls of all time.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Grubbz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yup, red players can post what ever they want on the blue forum but when a blue person makes a post on the red forum it gets ugly. INCOMING GM SHIT STORM.

+1
Red players have been spamming and shiting on blue players for months.
Blue finally got fed up and started answering, and suddenly - "oh please stop shiting on each other"

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would play red if there was an RP Anti-PK PvE guild.

We started up <Spear of the Nation> at release and really tried, but there wasn't enough interest. If more of you bluebies had stuck it out... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem is the bad apples of red99 really keep people from remaining on red99. That and boredom for many people. The pk / anti pk crowd were pretty even on RZ. Relapse's signature is quite accurate for red99--swing on those nuts to reach nihilum dragon loots or get brought down by the pitchfork pvpers :P

Also, the banning of holocaust, while probs even worse people than nihil, aboslutely demolished competition on that server and has kept it like that ever since, really. One of the worst GM calls of all time.

I know the bad apples can be a problem, but honestly some of you guys join the server sort of expecting to quit it seems. One bad experience and you're making angry goodbye threads. It would be like someone trying EQ for the first time and raging over being killed by the giants in Oasis...

And a lot of us try to help out. Like I've immy healed and DS'd people going up against epic fungi rogues. Holocaust deserved their ban, but so did Nihi imo. Lately the GMs have taken a harder stance on behavior that's detrimental to the server and it totally shows. If more of you guys came over to see that maybe we could offer up more options than Nihilum and Azrael to our endgame players. As things are I just make alt after alt and play the leveling game, but I want to kill those dragons with nice people like you guys get to [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Softcore PK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We started up <Spear of the Nation> at release and really tried, but there wasn't enough interest. If more of you bluebies had stuck it out... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



I know the bad apples can be a problem, but honestly some of you guys join the server sort of expecting to quit it seems. One bad experience and you're making angry goodbye threads. It would be like someone trying EQ for the first time and raging over being killed by the giants in Oasis...

And a lot of us try to help out. Like I've immy healed and DS'd people going up against epic fungi rogues. Holocaust deserved their ban, but so did Nihi imo. Lately the GMs have taken a harder stance on behavior that's detrimental to the server and it totally shows. If more of you guys came over to see that maybe we could offer up more options than Nihilum and Azrael to our endgame players. As things are I just make alt after alt and play the leveling game, but I want to kill those dragons with nice people like you guys get to [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fill out TMO application, obviously. We had like 1 fucking bard show up for VP this weekend. Sometimes 2. Can we not find a few dedicated bards ~

[Softcore PK]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fill out TMO application, obviously. We had like 1 fucking bard show up for VP this weekend. Sometimes 2. Can we not find a few dedicated bards ~

I don't think I can play a bard here after being spoiled with FM back in the day on live. But yeah TMO is blue's Nihilum, and who wants that? TMO has lots of great people but you end up being the big bad guy. Red has that. We want like a Divinity guild because we're lacking it atm.