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Old 09-17-2010, 12:48 PM
Alawen Everywhere Alawen Everywhere is offline
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I'm not the one that cares if the naming rules are enforced. As you said though, equal enforcement for all.
That sounds fine, Starklen. Rename Inglourious Basterds and I will accept a random elf name chosen by the staff.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:50 PM
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You're okay, then, with different rules for different groups of players? Are you familiar with the concepts of rule of law versus rule of man? Do you believe that arbitrary justice will promote the growth and stability of this server?
As I understand the rules, Guild Names can reference popular culture or celebrities. Names cannot. So I don't see this as bad application of rules or favoritism in that respect.

I am very, very familiar with the concept of rule of law, and politically quite libertarian. I don't think the analogy of the necessity of a strict rule of law holds as firm in the context of a closed, ad hoc situation like this server as it does in a complex society. I'm more concerned with some guy having his bank and medical records rifled through by undue process than I am of some person being renamed in a video game. They're not equal.

Let's say you're right, and this is an unfair application of rules, and any popular reference that guildnames have should be immediately corrected.

Would you then complain when judgment calls have to be made about what exactly constitutes a "popular reference?" Maybe not. But I think plenty of people would when arguing that case might prevent their name from being changed, thus heavily increasing the workload of the enforcers.

For example, say IB's guildname is changed, but "Drifters" (not a real guild, just an example) isn't. Just because one popular reference is more overt, enforcement on rules could be argued as unfair (and "Drifters" could have legitimate applications as a guild name). In that sense, the rules could be argued as de facto enforced against only overt popular references, and therefore unfair.

More argument will ensue when people accuse others of having popular references when the correlation was entirely coincidental - for example, your name being the same as some random NPC in another game (silly argument by that guy, but there are better examples). Some people choose names they like, yet unconsciously chose a name that was extremely similar or the same as some celebrity or famous character. A friend of mine chose the name "Punjabi" and was forced to change it on live, even though he chose the name without knowledge of what the word meant.

I just think that you can go forever if you want - eventually this stuff comes down to a judgment call that doesn't necessarily rest on things that can be absolutely determined. Although "reproducing the classic experience" is the vision, it's not something that could be 100% reached without absurdities. Judgment calls are made, and those calls are made for the benefit of the server from the perspective of those in charge.

Remember, nearly everything in the world has a correlation to causing cancer if we go down far enough (to parts per trillion or beyond). "Perceived inequities" can always be dug up and blown out of proportion if we really want to find them for some personal gain or vendetta.


I just hope it never becomes policy to rename the character I named "Bolt" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I really wasn't thinking of the movie dog (whose movie I never saw) when I made it. I just knew I could make a funny first name/surname combination with it =D
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I'll look into getting it changed to The Secret Order of the Silver Rose of Truth and Dragons.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:56 PM
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So we've gone from the rule so oppressive that it was unbearable, to a complete change in postition. Suddenly everyone wants the rule enforced across the board immediately. For all of your mindless nitpicking, none of you have managed to come across one of the most significant part of the rules.

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This naming policy should be considered retroactive at the discretion of the Customer Service Representatives, and will be enforced as the project's limited support resources permits.
The rules aren't even all that damned different from before, but suddenly your attention has been called to it and you feel like flailing your arms about: "AHMGAD!, what about my name? Nowait, what about HIS NAME!".

So let me break this down Barney style for you. Just because some of you personally have the time to scour everything that passes before your eyes for something to cry about, does not mean we have the time to care about it. These are a guideline for US. NOT FOR YOU.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:59 PM
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So we've gone from the rule so oppressive that it was unbearable, to a complete change in postition. Suddenly everyone wants the rule enforced across the board immediately. For all of your mindless nitpicking, none of you have managed to come across one of the most significant part of the rules.



The rules aren't even all that damned different from before, but suddenly your attention has been called to it and you feel like flailing your arms about: "AHMGAD!, what about my name? Nowait, what about HIS NAME!".

So let me break this down Barney style for you. Just because some of you personally have the time to scour everything that passes before your eyes for something to cry about, does not mean we have the time to care about it. These are a guideline for US. NOT FOR YOU.
inb4 whining about gms and guides being jerks and "not caring about the playerbase"
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I'll look into getting it changed to The Secret Order of the Silver Rose of Truth and Dragons.
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:59 PM
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Hah, give me the power to give people a chance to change their name, and I'll personally make a section of the forum whose name was changed from "this" to "that" so there is no confusion, and I'll even have fun doing it.
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WOW GUYS THATS A HARD CONCEPT BUT NO I'M TOO FUCKING SELFISH AND NEEDY AND I NEED TO FIND A WAY AROUND THE RULES TO MAKE MYSELF FEEL BETTER

Seriously, every time I see a fucking thread like this OH MYGOD THEY HAD 14 PEOPLE ITS OUR MOB LOL OURS OURS OURS YESSS I just want to fucking deathtouch the entire guild and despawn the mob.
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Old 09-17-2010, 01:48 PM
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This shit is Salem 1691 all over again
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:03 PM
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Friday? prepare to become Jibobtik
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:25 PM
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Not to interject, but, is my name (Kellygoosecock) safe? I have alot invested into it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:26 PM
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The only way he can become Jibobtik is if he faces the "Trials of Jibobtik" and defeats him...which we all know can and will never happen...
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Old 09-17-2010, 02:40 PM
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How about that spammer Fatcock****** from awhile back, is he gonna make it through these tough new regs?
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