Game Mechanics: Necro heal recourse incorrectly dispellable

[koros]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You try to kill it as fast as possible but it came down to efficiency at the end of most fights.

With the player running out of resources first losing their pet and dying.

Hopefully the Defiler will rear his bald and very classic head.

Nirgon, it's really simple... You cannot possibly survive Trucidation + 1-2 Touch of nights being directed on you while you kill a pet with non banishment of shadows spells. You can't kill a pet with damaging spells faster those taps can be cast.

On top of that, banishment of shadows does work on pets. Which negates the pet healing thing entirely.

So this supposed airtight evidence doesn't even make sense. Either your friends memory was wrong, or players of that era had no idea how to correctly fight the botb. Either way, it's hardly evidence.

Top that with the patch notes, and every other effect of the era sans res effects being dispellable, you aren't providing much of a case.

Additionally, I had a necro and I remember dispelling it. Necros had ridiculously low hp in that era and didn't like being buffless/without lich, so it probably wasn't the most commonly used group tactic.

[Nirgon]

Do you know that trucidation was allowed?

And..

You think they won't drain you back during trucidation/2 touch of nights? These weren't clueless necros here.

Losing the pet meant losing the fight... every time. That isn't to say they'd just stand there and ignore other survivability.

[koros]

How would that be possible for them to do if they were busy nuking your pet dead?

[Nirgon]

Fight starts

I undead nuke your pet or put vexing on it even

You drain me

I now drain you back and forth while your pet is at an hp disadvantage and probably dies

Then you die when my pet is up your ass (you can root it sure, but dispel->root->dispel->root you will be taking pet hits... and getting actually interrupted with classic channeling)


Edit: If they drained you.. you just drain their pet.

[koros]

725 one time on a spectre is going to be a bit less than 30% of its hp. It's going to last a long time with another pet beating on it. Trucidation is going to leave you at ~15-30% of your hp if you're lucky. In which case, if we're gonna just trade taps, i'd spam my pet to ignore the other pet and attack you. You'll die in a few rounds. I don't see how this negates what becomes an easy win.

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah its in the patch history. The one you keep mentioning. They incorrectly flagged it dispellable (probably the default value) and then fixed it.

I'll await the Defiler's return (to repeat himself? maybe to talk about banishment but that's unrelated imo) but this is a quick and easy fix.

That's not in the patch history.

Can you please provide evidence of these spells being broken and Sony having to patch them all?

Can you provide any evidence except your friend's hearsay?

[Nirgon]

Where's the patch note that says "we broke it this patch"?

Lol.

Esta muey funneys.

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where's the patch note that says "we broke it this patch"?

Lol.

Esta muey funneys.

Or "A series of spells were incorrectly changed and we're reverting them back" anything like that would have a forum post, a developer comment, would be talked about in the actual patch.

Then again I played a Necro since beta so I know you're wrong.

[Nirgon]

Ya and Zyrino played and won a server botb and almost the whole show... using these exact mechanics..

I'll take him over you... at least he would agree necros were strong in PvP classic through Velious.

Some people were making the corpses, other people were the corpses. Sorry you were on the wrong side of that. Again, another reason to listen to his understanding of game mechanics.

[Potus]

Yeah like everything else you post, I'm pretty sure that's bullshit too. People banished pet and nuked in BotB. They didn't heal pets lol.