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Old 04-14-2014, 06:20 PM
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You've obviously never met skynet.

Actually IMO... homeostasis, GIA, the human brain, monkly meditation, etc... all proof of self programming.

The universe is self ordering it orders itself on a galactic and universal level and a micro level. Everywhere we look we see order. Chaos would be complete fuzzy nothingness. There really is little focus point for white noise in the universe.

Even chaotic and gaseous nebulae have clear order and boundaries.
The universe is that extremely orderly because it ordered itself? Not possible.
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:35 PM
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The universe is that extremely orderly because it ordered itself? Not possible.
That's what they teach in schools and universities; assumptions are presented as facts, and facts are presented as assumptions.
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:40 PM
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This is a fun problem. Simulations can be programmed that fulfill the rules of the universe. But those are extremely abstract.

There is no current set of known concrete practical rules that end up in a simulation that is accurate to my knowledge.

I think we do have a fairly good grasp on how a lot things are ordered. I.e. gravitation. Magnetism. Etc...

Honestly this may be a really dumb question. But what creates the charges that create magnetism? Some things are just out of bounds. It's silly to assume that because something is out of bounds it's "god".

That is also an assumption.
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:49 PM
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There are theories that we do live in a computer simulation (e.g. speed of light is the max CPU clock speed)
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This is a fun problem. Simulations can be programmed that fulfill the rules of the universe. But those are extremely abstract.

There is no current set of known concrete practical rules that end up in a simulation that is accurate to my knowledge.

I think we do have a fairly good grasp on how a lot things are ordered. I.e. gravitation. Magnetism. Etc...

Honestly this may be a really dumb question. But what creates the charges that create magnetism? Some things are just out of bounds. It's silly to assume that because something is out of bounds it's "god".

That is also an assumption.
To make the clam that there is no god is essentially a claim to god ship. One would have to have intimate knowledge of the entirety of the universe in order to back up such a claim. If you had that level of knowledge, you would be god.
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From what I've read from various sources, while researching ETs, UFOs, and their origins, there is alot of concealed knowledge we're not privy to. Have you ever heard the term, "Forbidden Archaelogy?"

It's not limited to just that, there are many technologies in this world today, that we wouldn't have, if it wasn't for that fateful treaty between the US Govt & the malevolent ETs in 1954. The treaty involved trading ET technology for the permission to abduct people, as long as the ETs would keep the US Govt in the loop.
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Old 04-14-2014, 06:58 PM
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Oh r00t found this thread. I expect great things. Meaning more worthless bullshit spit out. I for one cant wait.
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Old 04-14-2014, 07:07 PM
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Im on the first page bro
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its been proven for almost 2 decades Idk what the controversy is
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Old 04-14-2014, 07:11 PM
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To make the clam that there is no god is essentially a claim to god ship. One would have to have intimate knowledge of the entirety of the universe in order to back up such a claim. If you had that level of knowledge, you would be god.
Good point. I'm only claiming probabilities not absolutes.

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To make the clam that there is no god is essentially a claim to god ship. One would have to have intimate knowledge of the entirety of the universe in order to back up such a claim. If you had that level of knowledge, you would be god.
there's also the problem of evil if someone is referring to the christian/abrahamic god.
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