The Reptilian RL Iksar Thread! - Page 27

Rhambuk · #**261** 04-13-2014, 03:15 PM

hilarious this guy puts people on ignore that ridicule his beliefs while he turns around and does the same thing...

valarmorghulis · #**262** 04-13-2014, 03:17 PM

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Nothing can come from nothingness so there must be a creator is what your saying. That is why god has to be real. Welllllll who created god another creator? then that? and so on and so on.....

it doesn't work

Ya your version doesn't work because your version does not follow logic. If God needed a creator and God's creator needs a creator etc ad infinite as you suggest then nothing could ever exist. The only logical explanation then becomes that God has always existed and therefor does not require a creator. Only that which has a beginning requires a creator. Therefor the first thing to ever exist HAS to be eternal and therefor does not have a beginning and therefor does not require a creator.

It does work.

Scrooge · #**263** 04-13-2014, 03:22 PM

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Ya your version doesn't work because your version does not follow logic. If God needed a creator and God's creator needs a creator etc ad infinite as you suggest then nothing could ever exist. The only logical explanation then becomes that God has always existed and therefor does not require a creator. Only that which has a beginning requires a creator. Therefor the first thing to ever exist HAS to be eternal and therefor does not have a beginning and therefor does not require a creator.

It does work.

I'm sure you already know this, but I wanted to let the other posters know as well; that even the ETs believe in the existence of God or "the creator" like some say. Maybe "believe" isn't the right word for this, but acknowledge is!

Rhambuk · #**264** 04-13-2014, 03:22 PM

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It does work.

I'm simply going to disagree with that.

afterthought. If god couldn't have been created because he has always been why couldn't the universe have always been, why must it have been created?

radditsu · #**265** 04-13-2014, 03:49 PM

Dude he cited ancient aliens as a source. You guys are posting in a troll thread ya idgits. At least h00ts troll threads have coherence. Stop posting in troll threads. Ya dumb faces.

Scrooge · #**266** 04-13-2014, 04:09 PM

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Dude he cited ancient aliens as a source. You guys are posting in a troll thread ya idgits. At least h00ts troll threads have coherence. Stop posting in troll threads. Ya dumb faces.

So because I mentioned the "Ancient Aliens" show to use as an example for a whole other topic, it invalidates the entire thread? Nice logic there.

valarmorghulis · #**267** 04-13-2014, 04:10 PM

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I'm simply going to disagree with that.

afterthought. If god couldn't have been created because he has always been why couldn't the universe have always been, why must it have been created?

I'll let Sir Isaac Newton answer this.

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“Blind metaphysical necessity, which is certainly the same always and every where, could produce no variety of things. All that diversity of natural things which we find suited to different times and places could arise from nothing but the ideas and will of a Being, necessarily existing.”

In other words, a bunch of inanimate, unintelligent particles floating around in space could never produce the incredible diversity and complexity of natural objects. Like for instance, the Sun is essentially a massive nuclear fusion reactor which can perfectly sustain itself for billions of years. How could such an object be formed without any knowledge of nuclear fusion?

That's more of a philosophical approach to the question but there is a scientific one as well. The 2nd law of thermodynamics which declares that all energy is heading towards maximum entropy and that there is a finite fixed amount of energy that exists within the Universe. Once all of this energy is used up the Universe experiences heat death for the rest of eternity because nothing can turn that energy which has achieved maximum entropy back into useful energy.

This law forces the Universe to have had a beginning because there's only enough energy in existence to sustain the Universe for a finite amount of time before ultimately every star burns out. Sure it may be an extremely long time but it's still a finite amount of time and therefor the Universe has to have a beginning.

radditsu · #**268** 04-13-2014, 04:21 PM

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So because I mentioned the "Ancient Aliens" show to use as an example for a whole other topic, it invalidates the entire thread? Nice logic there.

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Yes

Scrooge · #**269** 04-13-2014, 04:25 PM

Guess we have us another name to add to the "Troll List of the Ignored"! Thanks for bumping the thread anyway though.

rgostic · #**270** 04-13-2014, 04:26 PM

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However, for the sake of a discussion, if we DID evolve from apes, why are the apes still around again?? The evolution theory is about survival of the fittest, so if we had evolved from apes, the apes would no longer be around, if we stick within the boundaries of the theory to begin with.

Ever heard of the term tree of life?

When a tree sprouts a branch, what happens to the trunk?