Comparing EQ to WoW

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by Numbers_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think vanilla warcraft was a great game. I wish someone would make a PvE server that was just classic. Well, maybe to burning crusade. The mage class is my favorite mmo class ever.

I think when people say EQ was harder they usually mean the world is harsher and less forgiving, not that the gameplay is more difficult.

You are probably right about that.

Vanilla servers are out there..

Emerald Dream
Valkyrie
Rebirth

i recall seeing a youtbe video of a guy doing work on a BC era private server. he compared a typical private server to live, then compared his work to live. his was much closer.

typical private servers just pepper merbs through dungeons and 'get close.' this particular one had all the patrols, ever mob was the correct type, boss encounters scripted properly. whole 9 yards.

[Scikala]

Keyed progression is amazing, especially when the counters were fun/meaningful themselves. TBC raiding was barely a tedium, I always enjoyed logging in. Eventually once stuff was on supreme farm...it got boring, but learning and the first few kills were amazing.

Classic EQ before I really knew so much about MMOs and TBC raiding are my two favorite moments that I would love to relive.

[Numbers_]

Originally Posted by drktmplr12 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are probably right about that.

Vanilla servers are out there..

Emerald Dream
Valkyrie
Rebirth

i recall seeing a youtbe video of a guy doing work on a BC era private server. he compared a typical private server to live, then compared his work to live. his was much closer.

typical private servers just pepper merbs through dungeons and 'get close.' this particular one had all the patrols, ever mob was the correct type, boss encounters scripted properly. whole 9 yards.

That sounds awesome.

Like Yonkec said, the ones I've found usually have crazy experience modifiers or are PvP. I really hate PvP in MMOs and the modifiers ruin it for me, since I like the journey more than the destination.

[Varon]

Played WoW since Vanilla, just recently quit. Have played every role to the highiest levels. Healing was always the most fun/difficult part.

[Scikala]

Originally Posted by Varon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Played WoW since Vanilla, just recently quit. Have played every role to the highiest levels. Healing was always the most fun/difficult part.

I was a resto Shaman during TBC, Then Holy Paladin after until I killed normal Thunder King.(Guild at the time had too many retards who couldnt dodge Heroic Jin lighting, gave up and quit the game haha)

Healing is one of the most stressful/rewarding roles. Amazing healers also help hide the idiocy of your DPS from never paying attention to mechanics and needlessly taking dmg.

[Laledorie]

I played from EQ from late 2001 until late 2005 when I started playing WoW... I played that until the release of Cataclysm and I've gone back off and on over the years but never for very long. As most people have already said, BC was my favorite expansion and Lich King was actually my second favorite! I never played a DK but enjoyed the raiding content. I played many healers on WoW (Pally, Priest, Shaman, and Druid) and they were all max level at the time (85). I play a Druid on P99 and also played one on live... I really enjoy healing and anytime there's an option on the game, that's what I go with!

While leveling on WoW is a thousand times easier than P99, the healing was always much harder. It became a lot easier with the introduction of healbot but even then, it still took a lot of maneuvering. I've never healed high end content on EQ though so for all I know, it could be just as hard...

Seeing WoW like it is now breaks my heart a bit... But I suppose it's no different than seeing live EQ now... Games change to try and keep people interested, usually it just pushes them out. I don't think that a video game should ever give you a higher level character, people are running around in games these days with no idea how to play their toons!

[Scikala]

Originally Posted by Laledorie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seeing WoW like it is now breaks my heart a bit... But I suppose it's no different than seeing live EQ now... Games change to try and keep people interested, usually it just pushes them out. I don't think that a video game should ever give you a higher level character, people are running around in games these days with no idea how to play their toons!

Heartbreaking is a little bit of an understatement. There used to be a sense of pride in raiding and being on the top. Now its a loot pinata because the people who couldn't invest the time/learning encounters just get handed stuff.

And giving max level toons in any game is just a sad money grab. If your leveling content wasn't designed to rush you to end game/group to make friends and meet people, you'd never have such a disparity between low and high levels.

EQ, I made friends for life. WoW I came in with people I knew to raid, left with not a single new person sticking around in my mind/gaming life.

[Yonkec]

Originally Posted by Scikala [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ, I made friends for life. WoW I came in with people I knew to raid, left with not a single new person sticking around in my mind/gaming life.

I think that sums up a major difference in two games for many of us.

[Reguiy]

Originally Posted by Scikala [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ, I made friends for life. WoW I came in with people I knew to raid, left with not a single new person sticking around in my mind/gaming life.

It was the exact opposite for me. I have 3-4 friends I still go on RL trips with that I made through WOW and none from EQ. It might have to do with my age when I was playing EQ compared to WOW. Or it could have to do with the fact that I was into pvp, not pve. One could argue that pvp in WOW is a better way to get to know someone as there's an unlimited amount of pvp interaction and limited pve interaction due to instance lockouts and how leveling is fixed.

[Scikala]

Originally Posted by Reguiy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was the exact opposite for me. I have 3-4 friends I still go on RL trips with that I made through WOW and none from EQ. It might have to do with my age when I was playing EQ compared to WOW. Or it could have to do with the fact that I was into pvp, not pve. One could argue that pvp in WOW is a better way to get to know someone as there's an unlimited amount of pvp interaction and limited pve interaction due to instance lockouts and how leveling is fixed.

I was in HighSchool during EQ, and grouped with people all the time and kept in contact. WoW was a solo experience until Raiding/Gearing up for Raiding.

I don't enjoy MMO PvP period, but I can see your example making perfect sense because of the time investment early PvP required. You had a group that you had to communicate with and depend on in a completely different way then PvE people.