Nordenwatch's Guide: Rags to Riches

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe I'm wrong here.

Nailed it, now shut the fuck up.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nailed it, now shut the fuck up.

Ah darn. I admitted possible fault in an internet forum. Please call me fat again to put the nail in my coffin.

[Asap]

Will start calling people idiotic idiots, thanks Barkingturtle!

Forumquest champ!

[Splorf22]

Orruar there is a substantial difference between sitting around playing the worlds smallest violin and realizing that your actions have effects on other people, and trying to minimize the negative ones and maximize the positive ones beyond pure legality.

Derubael, thanks for chiming in.

[Orruar]

Loraen, that is fucking hilarious coming from you. Didn't you sort of try to burn down your guild before leaving? I won't be taking moral advice from you anytime soon.

[Senix]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's two main victims of RMT on P99.

The first is the RMT'ers themselves, and their integrity and character as a person. When you go to someone's house, you agree to abide by their rules. If you went to your friends house, said 'Don't worry pal, I won't smear shit on your walls' and then smear shit on their walls anyway, you're hurting your integrity as a human being. Similarly, when you come play on Project 1999, you are in Nilbog and Rogean's house, and you've agreed to abide by their rules. When you decide to break those rules, you're not only violating their trust in you as a player, but hurting your character in the process.

In addition to that, you're taking advantage of a free game that Nilbog, Rogean, and the Development Team work hard to provide for you, pouring their own time, money, and resources into maintaining. Instead of spending money on platinum, you could have been donating your money to the server that provides you with a wealth of entertainment and friendships. Every time money is spent on platinum, you're essentially spitting in the face of the people who provide you this free service.

Playing on this server is a privilege, not a right, and we all greatly enjoy being able to help facilitate the use of that privilege. But the moment you take advantage of that, or help someone else take advantage of that (funding people who sell RMT), we're going to remove that privilege because you are insulting the people who gave it to you in the first place.

Arguments could be made that it hurts the economy, or that it cheapens the experience, but that's not the big issue here. If you love classic Everquest, support the people who help you experience that free of charge - not the people making money off of Nilbog and Rogean's generosity, kindness, and love of the game.

The second victim is me, because it takes stupid amounts of time to track all of this down [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. That's CSR time that would be much better spent helping the player-base. So in a way, you're all victims too.

That's my 2pp.
tl;dr Support the project, not the people taking advantage of it. Also don't be a scumbag.

Dat slope is soooooo slippery.

If this honestly is the best argument the staff has against RMT I would have just kept it to myself. At least through silence some might think that the Staff knows something we don't or whatever. But you laying it out and showing your hand like that just shows that it is in fact victimless.

[Orruar]

Also, you clearly have no idea what I was even talking about. I made no claim to whether a given action was good or bad. Only whether the word "victim" should be applied to all situations where someone doesn't get the maximum benefit from other people as they could.

[Nordenwatch]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loraen, that is fucking hilarious coming from you. Didn't you sort of try to burn down your guild before leaving? I won't be taking moral advice from you anytime soon.

wtf did he do?

once again fuck you loraen

[JayN]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Orruar there is a substantial difference between sitting around playing the worlds smallest violin and realizing that your actions have effects on other people, and trying to minimize the negative ones and maximize the positive ones beyond pure legality.

Derubael, thanks for chiming in.

Im glad im not the only other person who feels this way

[Orruar]

Loraen, I really dislike your stance on kitten torture. I think all kittens should have a chance to live a happy kittenhood and grow into cats without being constantly tormented with severe pain.