DA KSes offically now?

[ShnarfShnarf]

Originally Posted by sidgb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In true FTE without GM logs, Trans would have been obligated to back off in favor of DA.

Fucking GMs and their rules if it werent for them inny would have been DA's.

They stole it fair and square after all, fucking asshole GM's and the rules man i swear DA would be #1 instead of #8 if they werent around

[Glitterati]

And it's pretty sad that they have to get involved at all! The psychology of cyberspace dictates that everyone gets to act like a douche. Anonymity actually causes this bad behavior, example, you with a name "forum troll". The personal disconnect is so great that some people are unable to recognize anything that happens on a computer screen as having real-life consequences.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Glitterati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What part of Rogean's ruling don't you idiots understand? He threw out the camping rule and reverted to the First to Agro rule, and Slydexx was first to agro. It's all right there in his logs.

Actually, in this Death Touch instance : First to "Hold" Aggro.

So something new for the ol' rule book.

[Supreme Retard]

Originally Posted by Glitterati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And it's pretty sad that they have to get involved at all! The psychology of cyberspace dictates that everyone gets to act like a douche. Anonymity actually causes this bad behavior, example, you with a name "forum troll". The personal disconnect is so great that some people are unable to recognize anything that happens on a computer screen as having real-life consequences.

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[Ingrum]

Originally Posted by Supreme Retard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Damn, I lol'd!

[h0tr0d (shaere)]

Actually Miley...

Q: What classifies a mob as "Engaged"?
A: A mob is classified as engaged as long as it has aggro on at least one player.

So, when a mob no longer has aggro on anyone following a quick death touch...it is not engaged. That is where he went with it.

I would also state this rule in of itself, the FTE is contradictory. First to be aggroed on differs from first to aggro, or first to engage. The first can be mob dependent, the latter is player dependent. A mob aggroing you is not the same as you aggroing the mob.
You are Afk? Mob aggros you, starts killing you. Player_01 comes along, engages him and you come back claiming kill steal, citing FTE rule. However, he was first to engage, and aggro the mob. You were the first to BE aggroed, but you were not engaging the mob.

So the rule should be changed perhaps. A mob having aggro on someone does not necessarily mean they are actively engaging said mob.

Also, perhaps enforce courtesy and respect more, or more harshly. Don't allow people to justify or rationalize poor behavior.

And the real failure, the point that is missed here, is that someone might care so little about their reputation. If you KNOW it will create drama, problems, and this whole mess, why do it? Because you think you found a way to get away with acting poorly?

Character is made by many acts, it can be lost by a single one.

[Glitterati]

Originally Posted by h0tr0d (shaere) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually Miley...

Q: What classifies a mob as "Engaged"?
A: A mob is classified as engaged as long as it has aggro on at least one player.

So, when a mob no longer has aggro on anyone following a quick death touch...it is not engaged. That is where he went with it.

I would also state this rule in of itself, the FTE is contradictory. First to be aggroed on differs from first to aggro, or first to engage. The first can be mob dependent, the latter is player dependent. A mob aggroing you is not the same as you aggroing the mob.
You are Afk? Mob aggros you, starts killing you. Player_01 comes along, engages him and you come back claiming kill steal, citing FTE rule. However, he was first to engage, and aggro the mob. You were the first to BE aggroed, but you were not engaging the mob.

So the rule should be changed perhaps. A mob having aggro on someone does not necessarily mean they are actively engaging said mob.

Also, perhaps enforce courtesy and respect more, or more harshly. Don't allow people to justify or rationalize poor behavior.

And the real failure, the point that is missed here, is that someone might care so little about their reputation. If you KNOW it will create drama, problems, and this whole mess, why do it? Because you think you found a way to get away with acting poorly?

Character is made by many acts, it can be lost by a single one.

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[h0tr0d (shaere)]

I think I am done with this thread, beating a dead horse. I would also point out I do not see DA members lighting this or any other thread up, or lighting up ooc, or shout in game as a result of this incident. So despite what happened and occurred, players in game didn't act up about it after the smoke cleared, or really get bad here. So kudos there.

And they acted completely respectful and courteous the day before. We were breaking fear, they waited outside. We fight at the zone in, them zoning in would probably result in bad blood, chaos. They waited. We evacced to reinsert, then they zoned in. We waited. When they had things settled, we zoned in. It all went rather perfectly, courtesy and respect shown. They even offered up the first piece of rotting loot in ooc, perhaps as an olive branch. I would hope that the mob isn't what drove this, people clamoring for loot forcing leadership to make decisions they knew perhaps might not have the best result. But that is their business, my speculation.

Seems like we are arguing with a few trolls is all. But there are a few changes that could be for the better as a result of things gleaned from this thread.

I hope.

[Supreme Retard]

Originally Posted by h0tr0d (shaere) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Character is made by many acts, it can be lost by a single one.

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[Supreme Retard]

Originally Posted by h0tr0d (shaere) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seems like we are arguing with a few trolls is all.

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