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Old 03-14-2014, 10:07 AM
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We are human beings, we make mistakes.

A petition was sent in and we arrived in VP. We see two mobs planted in a room that normally has only PD. We assume they are bugged, and the mobs are de-popped. While we are still in the room, the group of players is hit with a train and wiped out. Before we are able to ascertain how those mobs aggro'd, they had reset, so we were unable to check their hate-list.

We knew there were two players FD outside the door, and we wanted to rule out an opposing forces train as a possibility for the aggro. 2 or 3 players were res'd. Upon zoning in, the wyrm that paths near the door aggro's the force again. The pathing on that wyrm is bugged, and in the process of aggroing people through the door, he paths back into the hallway and aggro's the rest of the mobs in the room (thus the train that previously wiped the group). This train wipes the group again, and two players receive res's. This would be our mistake. VP is a no-csr zone, and even though the players died to a bug (mobs should not aggro through doors in VP, as it is an indoor zone and LoS Aggro checks should apply), after the pathing test was complete, the res'd players should not have been re-res'd.

We did not res an entire raid. We did not open any doors. The mobs were de-popped because we believed them to be bugged. After realizing what had actually happened, we weren't even sure it was a legitimate tactic, but later decided it was. You can extrapolate your own conclusions from what happened, but do not come here or go in game and insinuate that a GM is affiliated with any guild. Sirken and myself are not allowed to have player characters on either server - to suggest that one of us is playing for any side is ridiculous and untrue.

Furthermore, if you do firmly believe there is evidence of favortism being shown, this forum is not the place to air those grievances. We have a petition forum, and if you don't trust that, Nilbog or Rogean's PM box, where those kinds of concerns can be sent. I am unsure as to where these additional circumstances and accusations of favortism are coming from (several of you have voiced concern that there have been multiple 'sketchy' happenings), because as far as I know this is the first time this has occurred.

We are not infallible. Sometimes we make bad calls, or are flat out wrong. We ask that people take this into account before making blanket statements in regards to our decisions.
Shit happens.

But if this was really a mistake, GMs would remove the Phara dar items from the game, which those players in this case should never have had.

Was it done?
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:07 AM
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Anytime you want to compare your resume to mine please feel free. I am sure we would all enjoy a good laugh.

Be that in game or real life.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:09 AM
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Shit happens.

But if this was really a mistake, GMs would remove the Phara dar items from the game, which those players in this case should never have had.

Was it done?
Shut the hell up moron.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:10 AM
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kinamaara why would the GM's penalize players for their mistake, lol

also @ elderan, you guys take for ever to clear through VP jesus, like hour - hour and a half? didn't realize you have to kill siverwing and hoshkar to get to phara dar's room - if that was azrael would of been on you in 10 minutes for sure
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:14 AM
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kinamaara why would the GM's penalize players for their mistake, lol

also @ elderan, you guys take for ever to clear through VP jesus, like hour - hour and a half? didn't realize you have to kill siverwing and hoshkar to get to phara dar's room - if that was azrael would of been on you in 10 minutes for sure
With 10 mobs sure..

See the difference is Nihilum gets banned for training where Azrael doesn't.
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:19 AM
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kinamaara why would the GM's penalize players for their mistake, lol

also @ elderan, you guys take for ever to clear through VP jesus, like hour - hour and a half? didn't realize you have to kill siverwing and hoshkar to get to phara dar's room - if that was azrael would of been on you in 10 minutes for sure
There's nothing personal about that. It is simply that Azrael would never had got those items if it was not for GMs intervening with the game.

They did, Azrael got the items and GMs apologized for the mistake.

It's pretty damn easy to undo the mistake though, so if it isn't undone, it's like saying "sorry, but i'm not sorry."
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:23 AM
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/popcorn lots of butt hurt people here
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:30 AM
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Anytime you want to compare your resume to mine please feel free. I am sure we would all enjoy a good laugh.

Be that in game or real life.
wrong the answer was 4 apples. holy shit you are bad with numbers
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:32 AM
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There's nothing personal about that. It is simply that Azrael would never had got those items if it was not for GMs intervening with the game.

They did, Azrael got the items and GMs apologized for the mistake.

It's pretty damn easy to undo the mistake though, so if it isn't undone, it's like saying "sorry, but i'm not sorry."
Lololol You are such a whiney little pussy. Grow up
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Old 03-14-2014, 10:33 AM
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Azrael should have their pixels removed for gm mistake





























Nihilum should also have all pixels removed since nov 2011 due to gm mistake
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