Question about xp penalty in groups

[innocent51]

Slightly but my "normal" friend group is rogue/war/monk/enc with no malus race (and no bonus).

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by Dumesh

That is absolutely incorrect

Originally Posted by innocent51 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is mathematically correct.

You failed at understanding what I declared to be incorrect. iecompte said that a troll sk caused his party to get 68% less xp for each kill before the xp is split. That is a completely inaccurate statement. Each players' share is based on their total xp, nothing else. The amount of xp the mob gives doesn't ever change based on the class or race of the pc killing it.

[nndiro]

just curious... how far advanced velius is the xp penalty removed?

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by nndiro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just curious... how far advanced velius is the xp penalty removed?

On live it was about 1 month into velious... and it only removed class based penalties, not racial penalties.

[Dirtnap]

I can't explain the math behind what I am saying, because it SHOULDN'T be that way. It doesn't change the fact that this is how it works.

Taking a couple levels 1 characters wouldn't show this, because they would have the same total exp gained. The problem comes up when you have someone with a much larger total exp gain, like with a troll SK paired with a halfling warrior.

The SK takes the majority of the split, and will see higher % gains on his exp bar than the warrior will.

Go give it a try, team up with someone and check your exp totals. Kill 10 mobs and then see if you both went up the same %.

You will see that you wont go up the same % even though the math says you should.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On live it was about 1 month into velious... and it only removed class based penalties, not racial penalties.

Note that the racial penalties are also made self-only at the same time, so groups shouldn't care about them.

Danth

[Dumesh Uhl'Belk]

Originally Posted by Dirtnap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't explain the math behind what I am saying, because it SHOULDN'T be that way. It doesn't change the fact that this is how it works...

Go give it a try, team up with someone and check your exp totals. Kill 10 mobs and then see if you both went up the same %.

You will see that you wont go up the same % even though the math says you should.

Well, to be fair, I should have disclaimed that I was describing how xp worked on live. Way back when, I was contacted by server staff and shared my research and info with them. I have not ever systematically tried to verify the mechanics on P99.

[Ofaelol]

I rolled a Half-Elf bard as my first p99 toon. Should I be worried about not being able to get exp groups?

[fadetree]

If you actually play a bard well : No
If you suck : Yes
If you swarm kite to 50 : Yes, but you probably won't care until then.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you actually play a bard well : No
If you suck : Yes
If you swarm kite to 50 : Yes, but you probably won't care until then.

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