Building a Mosque??? WTF

[Bodeanicus]

Originally Posted by Abacab *****h [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're doing it for the lulz most likely.

But then again is it really any different than us bombing the fuck out a 3000 year old city that contains several holy sites and places of culture relevance and popping up a McDonald's and several night clubs?

How many meccas of capitalism have we placed on the charred remains of a culture foreign to our own? Even the crusaders of old sacc'd muslim/jewish cities to raid that shit for gold and establish missionaries and trade routes

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Love it or hate it the real reason for military conflict is not vindication or righteousness it is merely economics.

and I'm lovin' it

That picture is fucking brilliant. I hate you a little less.

[Bodeanicus]

By the way, it's not a Mosque. It's a community center with a prayer room in it. Fox will rot your brain.

[Eternal-Elf]

Originally Posted by Bodeanicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By the way, it's not a Mosque. It's a community center with a prayer room in it. Fox will rot your brain.

I just have a feeling that when you put a place of worship, in the middle of a place full of people that hate it.....eventually you're going to have a problem.

What happens when you get a group of people from New York that shoot the place up or something.......all out civil war is what will happen.

I don't want that.

[Itchybottom]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

go read the surah of the sword, for example, and tell me otherwise:

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)....." Surah 9:5

The full verse is

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."

And by the teachings is meant to be taken with:

"And if they incline to peace, then incline to it and trust in Allah; surely He is the Hearing, the Knowing." Surah 8:61

It also loses some of it's meaning when translated to English, much like a Christian bible when compared to Septuagint text.

Grouping all of American-Islam into an extremist category is like grouping all Catholic priests into the category of child molesters. Maybe it's because I was raised Buddhist that I have a different viewpoint [and respect for all religions], but I'm just not seeing it.

[Bodeanicus]

Originally Posted by Eternal-Elf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just have a feeling that when you put a place of worship, in the middle of a place full of people that hate it.....eventually you're going to have a problem.

What happens when you get a group of people from New York that shoot the place up or something.......all out civil war is what will happen.

I don't want that.

Oh, I agree. Politically, it's a very bad idea. Whoever owns that lot should just sell it, and build elsewhere.

[Bodeanicus]

Originally Posted by Itchybottom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The full verse is

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."

And by the teachings is meant to be taken with:

"And if they incline to peace, then incline to it and trust in Allah; surely He is the Hearing, the Knowing." Surah 8:61

It also loses some of it's meaning when translated to English, much like a Christian bible when compared to Septuagint text.

Grouping all of American-Islam into an extremist category is like grouping all Catholic priests into the category of child molesters. Maybe it's because I was raised Buddhist that I have a different viewpoint [and respect for all religions], but I'm just not seeing it.

The Old Testament in the King James Bible is full of similar shit. Does that make all Christians blood thirsty zealots? Should we judge all Christians by those lunatics fucks who protest soldier's funerals? No, and we shouldn't judge all Muslims but some backwards shit in their holy book either. Punish the individuals transgressors, not the people as a whole.

[Abacab niggah]

Thank Xenu I'm a scientologist!

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[fugazi]

Its not on Ground Zero, its two blocks away from it. They're already using the place right now as a place of worship and prayer. For people who invade countries to bring 'em democracy, it's pretty hilarious to see you ignoring the hell out of your constitution when it befits you.

.. but I agree with the fact that it would be poor taste to build a mosque at Ground Zero. Alas, it isn't at Ground Zero.

[Straif]

The only reason it's a news topic is a political distraction.

The media has vilified Islam since 9/11. When it comes to the Qu'ran people misinterpret what they don't understand.

Timothy McVeigh was a Christian. He blew up the federal building in Oklahoma, are people not allowed to build churches near federal property?

Fear makes people do reckless things. Personally if I was a Muslim involved in this whole ordeal I'd try to make a point to be more open with the public in having a debate and offering some insight and information on Islam. If people continue to be ignorant after an education, than that's on them.

A lot of the older southern population believe in all sorts of crazy shit when it comes to Islam. As well as still extremely prejudice (race is still a big issue in this country.) Islam is a faith to more than a BILLION people on the face of the earth, to say that amount of people have the only one objective and it's to kill infidels, you're a fucking retard. Not to mention the enormous amount of WHITE Muslims.

People need to do more reading and less believing what ANY media outlet tells them.

[Straif]

Also... adding to what Fugazi said... rhetoric would want you to believe that they're building a "SUPER" "MEGA" "GIANT" Mosque and want you to believe it was literally being built directly on the site of the WTC.

Jihad is also made up of multiple facets.

In the end however it's is a conversation with God.