Guide to AoE Bard Kiting, here on P99. - Page 6

toddfx · #51 09-01-2010, 12:30 AM

WHOA.

Right after posting that last response, I alt+tabbed back into EQ and accidentally aggroed 2 yellow aviaks and a blue. I said what the hell and just went for it. I concentrated hard on keeping my rhythm and ended up killing them all without major incident. Then just as they were about dead, I somehow got another yellow and a red on me! I got the red down to 50% before losing my rhythm and taking a bunch of hits, but came in for a second go-around and killed them both!

My heart hasn't beat that fast in EQ since Live...nor have I got that much experience from a handful of kills since I was level 3!

I'm a believer!

Cyph · #52 09-01-2010, 12:59 AM

Hah, nice work toddfx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] When I get a few more levels under my belt I'm going to hit it up [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nalkin · #53 09-01-2010, 06:32 PM

New personal best. 18. And if you include the lion that happened on me in the middle of the kite, 19. All the mobs were DB - red, and at level 24/25 (as I leveled in the middle of this one) I netted about 1.2 yellows from the whole thing.

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guineapig · #54 09-01-2010, 10:04 PM

Good stuff Nalkin!

Cyph · #55 09-01-2010, 10:58 PM

Nicely done nalkin!

What level would a bard be able to perform such heroic feats? I'm currently level 10 and getting tired of Crushbone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lazortag · #56 09-01-2010, 11:16 PM

You can do it at level 10 but you might need SoW, or you might need to start learning how to swap instruments quickly, because Selo's with a lute just won't be enough speed I don't think.

nalkin · #57 09-01-2010, 11:41 PM

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Nicely done nalkin!

What level would a bard be able to perform such heroic feats? I'm currently level 10 and getting tired of Crushbone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not really sure, the question is going to be whether or not you are fast enough with selos + drums. Id guess you are but I can't say for certain since I didn't do it below level 20. Best way to see if you can is to go out and try it. Grab an orc or 2 and kite it around. Do it several times, because when I first started I would get hit all the time and I didn't even think it was possible without regening in the middle of it, which imo makes it not worth it. Once you get it down though you will rarely ever get hit.

If you get it down though /wave goodbye to all your grouping friends cause the xp is way faster. Also get ready for everyone in SK to hate you haha.

Gratal · #58 09-02-2010, 08:19 AM

I saw this post recently (level 7) and got to 8 very quickly. A few things I notice is with low level kiting the mobs don't hit for much, but you have low hp and almost no AC. Also, you MUST switch Lute...it's a difference between 4dmg and 8dmg a tick. On a side note, I was kiting 3 lionesses in EC and an SK ran by, stopped and stared at me. Then commented on how he didn't know bards could do that on this server. Excellent post! Helped me alot.

Lazortag · #59 09-02-2010, 10:06 AM

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If you get it down though /wave goodbye to all your grouping friends cause the xp is way faster. Also get ready for everyone in SK to hate you haha.

Actually at higher levels there aren't many mobs you can aoe kite, at least that I know of in classic. Spectres are good for a while but the exp isn't as good as grouping (the loot is totally worth it though).

Messianic · #60 09-02-2010, 11:36 AM

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I recently made a video of AE kiting here. Its with 7 mobs, I couldn't find any more at the time because it was crowded, but I have done ~11 with red con gnolls/DB aviaks. Hope its helpful for anyone who wants to see what its like.

I am positive the OP mentioned these things but I am going to reiterate what I have learned from the short duration that I have been kiting with a bard on p99.

1a) Mobs have incredibly huge hit ranges when you are running straight. I specifically left a clip in that demonstrates this. When I pull the first mob, I will zig-zag away and not be hit. Shortly after you will see me running from the same mob and I am running straight and he will hit me from a ridiculous distance (~:40 into the video).

1b) NEVER RUN STRAIGHT. Even if keeping your circular motion mean you will be closer to the mobs do it.

2) The distance that the songs can go is so short that you must kite in an oval. Ideally the song will be cast during the time you are on one of the small sides of the oval, as that is when the mob is closest to you.

3) Never run straight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS_ag6U1Z6U

Cool stuff. Curiosity - how long, in full, does it take to complete one of these mega-swarm kites of 15-18ish? Counting gathering the mobs and actually doing the kite, etc, it seems to take between 7-10 minutes. For killing 18 red/yellowish mobs, that's a very good rate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]