PNP Rules are playing out great.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Holey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

stasis bro, you sound mad.
he killed my alt so many times.
qq cry more.

I am saying that raid PVP CCing is 100x worse than single/grp PVP - Drak was right that the leaderboard made people farm EXP groups which is terrible.

But it doesn't even come close to CCing people that logged off for the night in frustration at Trak prep area/Hate/Fear.

And it is a huge burden on the leadership to hold every members hand (when many are casuals) to get their body back.

No mad here, just putting the logic train back on the rails instead of crashing.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am saying that raid PVP CCing is 100x worse than single/grp PVP - Drak was right that the leaderboard made people farm EXP groups which is terrible.

But it doesn't even come close to CCing people that logged off for the night in frustration at Trak prep area/Hate/Fear.

And it is a huge burden on the leadership to hold every members hand (when many are casuals) to get their body back.

No mad here, just putting the logic train back on the rails instead of crashing.

Yes, corpse retrieval is so boring and the PvP associated with camping people without gear is almost as boring. Good to see that part of PvE/PvP becoming less tedious.

[heartbrand]

PNP working great. If not for the PNP the Kith / DL / Sol B etc., battles probably would have never happened, because each side would fear being CC'ed for the remainder of the day.

[Holey]

shit i walked in like a boss last night after i died, and was like
supp peeeps.

chatted for a few seconds then bounced LOL
no shit talking just a friendly talk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Andis]

exactly, without the rules it would be a cc fest

pras pnp

pras pvp

pras yt

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PNP working great. If not for the PNP the Kith / DL / Sol B etc., battles probably would have never happened, because each side would fear being CC'ed for the remainder of the day.

I think there is definitely some truth to this. Even the duke posted that the excessive stuff should always been covered under the PVP. I think if we could make some modifications to the PNP for mass PVP so that nobody gets griefed but we can focus more on the battle then who is a legitimate target we could have a really good ruleset.

I don't think we're far off either. If we just made it so you're not allowed to LNS while the battle is still going, and if you try then you auto forfeit your LNS and/or are subject to disciplinary action that would do it.

[Nirgon]

If you are going to participate in mass pvp, no one goes to get their corpse until LNS is requested.

If you are going into mass pvp, go in with the expectation that (imagine this) it could take a while.

Really hard problem to solve, let me tell ya.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are going to participate in mass pvp, no one goes to get their corpse until LNS is requested.

If you are going into mass pvp, go in with the expectation that (imagine this) it could take a while.

Really hard problem to solve, let me tell ya.

You have convinced me.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have convinced me.

Welcome to the cleansing, glorious light.

[Mac Dretti]

i tend to agree that pnp allows the fight to end smoothly, i.e. no corpse camping

but letting people "lns" in middle of ongoing battle is dumb

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are going to participate in mass pvp, no one goes to get their corpse until LNS is requested.