Get rid of PNP rules

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Technique [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see any people speaking out against the spirit of the policy, just the flawed, inadequate implementation of it.

It is hard to talk compromise to fix a system when guild leaders speak out in blatant disregard for the rules applying to him or his guild.

As I mentioned, have Heartbrand and Nizzar compromise on a system that fixes problems like rezzing in mass pvp or corpse runs.

It isn't rocket science to figure out as long as the leaders could police their players but until both leaders have made it clear they are striving for a system like this there will be no progress.

[Sektor]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nope luv me some pnp

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I completely understand why there are people that are against PnP. I also understand that they don't understand the macro of how it effects game play. It isn't meant to grief player that don't know how to play nice. If implemented correctly and governed so that players are not able to take advantage/exploit the rules the PnP will:

1) help players get their corpse and move on without being griefed over and over in small scale pvp

2) change how big scale pvp works - 1 kill per character with no bind rushing

This allows guilds to fight over PvE content, as a PvP server should, and then allow the victor time to do whatever PvE content they just won in PvP.

I'm not saying RD has done everything 100% but they haven't resisted it as blatantly as Nihilum has either. For a guild leader to speak out against a system that shows common decency and respect among competing guilds is disgusting.

The server would be much more fun if some decency could be shown and guilds were able to do mass PvP, respecting the winner, and not breaking the rules. For this to happen guild leaders need to accept this and be role models. They should be willing to meet with other guild leaders and push for a compromise. Guides will listen if you are reasonable and would most likely listen to spokesman from Nihilum and Red Dawn if they agreed. Grow up and be men about it.

As long as all these level 60's follow a leader who is too blinded by his own arrogance and greed to push for a healthier server everyone will suffer. We will be forced to deal with people getting banned/suspended because their leader supports those that cheat/exploit the current rules to get an edge on the competition. Going up against a guild doing this also puts competing guilds in a tight spot since they have to willingly sit by and be beaten by those breaking the rules or break some themselves.

This server deserves a number one guild with a better leader.

The irony is this? How many people in RD have common decency... the word you so boldy use?

Like... 10 out of 76.

Mcloven... maybe a few others.

All the core members are either ex Azreal scumbags or account strippers or people who spent weeks greifing players who challenged them at the manaston camp.

It's like if Al'queda all of a sudden said it stood up for womens rights as an excuse to assassinate every male president we elected.

Oh the irony and the B.S. runs thick here.

Will it ever change?

Someone mind digging up heartbrands teams99 quotes, how he is gonna grief teams99, and wants to form a guild solely for the purpose of griefing teams99?

You guys only want these rules because it's the only way you can compete with the dregs of the server and poor leadership.

Lastly why is Nihilum and only a few flowers complaining? Because there's no one left outside of RD because of your toxic BS and people are quite literally so week in the knees they join the eziest guild to survive in on this box. And bluebies don't know any better.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's like if Al'queda all of a sudden said it stood up for womens rights as an excuse to assassinate every male president we elected.

It's EXACTLY like this, can't believe this runlvlzero guy figured me out. FUCK

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey Sirkdawg. Will the simulated repops be occurring on red also or just blue?

we just finished hog tying blue.

Red is next

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The irony is this? How many people in RD have common decency... the word you so boldy use?

Like... 10 out of 76.

Mcloven... maybe a few others.

All the core members are either ex Azreal scumbags or account strippers or people who spent weeks greifing players who challenged them at the manaston camp.

It's like if Al'queda all of a sudden said it stood up for womens rights as an excuse to assassinate every male president we elected.

Oh the irony and the B.S. runs thick here.

Will it ever change?

Someone mind digging up heartbrands teams99 quotes, how he is gonna grief teams99, and wants to form a guild solely for the purpose of griefing teams99?

I don't know if people think you are a liar or insane, but I do know that no one values your opinion.

As far as McLoven, I'm glad he decided to join. I personally talked to him in game 2 days ago about the fun to be had in the guild. It looks like he joined because of it.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we just finished hog tying blue.

Red is next

I think simulated repops perfect way to get more competition. Today is a great example, Red Dawn in the middle of a hate clear, boom random repop, we're getting inny, rushing other targets everyone scrambling. Much better than variance. The repop friday was thrilling as FUCK minus the time it happened.

[Stasis01]

The person who uses raid corpse camping, high playtime world corpse camping and experience grp killing, wants the PNP reverted. The guy controlling all spawns and doing anything required to make other guilds not only give up but break apart and quit or join Nihi with a MASSIVE gear advantage/level advantage wants the rules reverted.

This rule goes against the entire model of Nihilum, unfortunately the GM's understand it's also keeping this server low population and extremely frustrating and toxic. The population growth will reflect this if rules are enforced brutally, especially to Nihilum throwing a fit and trying to rule lawyer/bend each individual situation, such as not letting my cleric res me.

I think they'll get it, and the box will have a chance, this is just a case of people in power scared to lose some of it, even though they abuse that power and ruin the entire dream of red99. Fucking pirates.

[runlvlzero]

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[Nizzarr]

hey stasis

Situation: A rogue zones into seb, runs down to the ledge and kills a shaman soloing. That shaman has a friend come and ress him, the rogue kills the cleric at the entrance before he can get to that shamans corpse. The cleric then comes back into the zone for LNS. The cleric is allowed to loot his corpse at the entrance.
Question: Does this cleric have the right to sooth down to the shaman and ress him?
Our current interpretation: The cleric must loot his corpse, and then leave without buffing, killing or anything else.
Sirken says: You are correct

fuck you stasis, you rule lawyering easy bake erudite.