All Players are Raid Suspended Until Further Notice

[Hawala]

I don't think we deserve to raid, the vitriol in here is disgusting.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think those 5 items are what is going to make Velious a breeze you are wholly confused. Not surprised though considering you think I am Elmariah? Derp

20 CH BPs will though... Dunno why they haven't nerfed that yet.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Brut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Moreso arguing with this retarded idea in general where any guild willingly wanted this situation!

I have seen multiple BDA/Taken/Div people come out in support of the raid suspension, including leadership.

The suspension hurts FE/TMO far far greater than the casuals who weren't raiding shit anyways.

There wont be an agreement with this situation basically because the staff and the casuals in effect put a gun to our heads and said "Agree on something". Nothing positive can come from negotiations under duress especially when one side assumes they "hold all the cards". TMO/FE have offered 2 very very very fair plans for casual guilds, and they wholly blocked them without compromise. This is largely because of the misguided actions of the staff who seem to think that 2 very disparate groups of people will ever come to some equally beneficial agreement.

In the end, FE/TMO will likely cave to some shitty agreement that is wholly unjustified for them just to keep attrition from killing their guilds.

[Brut]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you think those 5 items are what is going to make Velious a breeze you are wholly confused. Not surprised though considering you think I am Elmariah? Derp

Reading comprehension alarti - I've been saying that they aren't.

Nerf donals bp immediately on Velious release imo into v3 state, that's what we need to stop this supposed gear advantage really.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

20 CH BPs will though... Dunno why they haven't nerfed that yet.

Honestly, hope they are nerfed unclassicly day 1 of velious.

[Obrae]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

~checks watch~

Well it’s about that time little birds.

Sadly since no agreement was reached, and since no talks are currently in place, I am raid suspending all guilds, and all players, from ALL raid targets and ALL raid zones.

Until further notice anyone who touches a raid mob (VP Dragons, Trak, VS, CT, Draco, Inny, Maestro, Gore, Fay, Tal, Sev, Noble, OoA, Naggy, Vox, Phinny, Ragefire, Planar Trash, or anything else I forgot) or enters into Plane of Sky, Plane of Hate, Plane of Fear, or Veeshan’s Peak, will be banned until the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, until the seas go dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves. Only Then you shall return and continue playing should you break these rules.

Such of failure of leadership
Specially the raid forum existing only for 2 days and staff coming to mix all the cards at the last minute.

Laughable and i don't care about raiding got no time, just saw the whole thing get so badly handled.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Brut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reading comprehension alarti - I've been saying that they aren't.

Nerf donals bp immediately on Velious release imo into v3 state, that's what we need to stop this supposed gear advantage really.

Again its not those 5 items... its other items(no not donals)

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Obrae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Such of failure of leadership
Specially the raid forum existing only for 2 days and staff coming to mix all the cards at the last minute.

Laughable and i don't care about raiding got no time, just saw the whole thing get so badly handled.

your forum join date is aug 13, is that when you started here?

This problem has been going on for years, the staff have tried many times to get it settled and given players more than ample time to solve it amongst ourselves.

This should have happened MONTHS ago....

[Engraverwilliam]

mR. GM guy. I have never been on a big raid except in Live I was able to go to a few places with my guild... It takes me over a year to get to 50 IF I even get that High up. So you know that I am just a guy who has played EQ since the dawn of time but I am far from a raiding hardcore dude. Having said all that, here is my suggstion.

Could you put entrance timers on the mobs?
If you have killed a boss or participated in killing said boss... then you don't get to go back for a month. This would give other Raiders a shot at the boss as well.

Just my 2cp

[Joroz]

the 50/50(more like 30/70 with VP) plan proposed by Rogean is probably about as good as its going to get for the hardcore camp, the MAJORITY of players on the server are what is being called "casual raiders", but there will easily be 10X more players actively raiding in tier 2 when they are free from the shenanigans that tier 1(small MINORITY) guilds have been doing the last 3 years making the raid scene so toxic. A closer to even split would be tier 2 would get 2 to 1 of the tier 1 mobs outside of VP so... take Rogean's plan and lets get the raiding back on track. all the mobs are up waiting to be killed!