OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Bossman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This "proposal" is a joke. You will not get a consensus on it, period. Move on or enjoy not raiding.

I've enjoyed raiding for some time now.

There are other proposals I like more.

When I was in Acyrid I remember thinking I would be happy if TMO gave us the chance to kill one mob a month, just to see the shit and experience classic EQ. I accepted that i'd never be raid geared or get my epic. I think I've raided enough now to be satisfied, at least seeing the content. If it's between not raiding and full rotation with people as bitter and lazy as you. I'm fine with taking a break for a while. Not that all people in other guilds are bitter and lazy, but I'm assuming you are.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If one extreme is a full rotation, and the other extreme is the top guilds dominating, then wouldn't the middle ground be . . . half rotation and half FFA? And is this not exactly what Divinity proposed?

No it wouldn't because we'd be on the full rotation. Half and half is not middle ground.

[Bossman]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are other proposals I like more.

When I was in Acyrid I remember thinking I would be happy if TMO gave us the chance to kill one mob a month, just to see the shit and experience classic EQ. I think I've raided enough now to be satisfied, at least seeing the content. If it's between not raiding and full rotation with people as bitter and lazy as you. I'm fine with taking a break for a while.

Sweet dude see you in Velious. One close-minded Zerg down, 200 to go.

[Bossman]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it wouldn't because we'd be on the full rotation. Half and half is not middle ground.

This might be the dumbest post I have ever seen. Kudos!

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Bossman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sweet dude see you in Velious. One close-minded Zerg down, 200 to go.

Lol, and all these agreements are going to be mute come Velious. Guess I'll definitly see you then. Crying on the boards for another rotation.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it wouldn't because we'd be on the full rotation. Half and half is not middle ground.

Half and half is not middle ground? Are you kidding me? And you are on the rotation section of Divinity's proposal. It gives TMO+FE+IB as group 2/3 of the mobs every month weekly . . which is more than half.

I am honestly not sure how to talk to you.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it wouldn't because we'd be on the full rotation. Half and half is not middle ground.

How would less than half of the days of the month on rotation, and the rest (> 50%) be pure competition not be the middle ground? What logic is your "full rotation" coming from? I don't understand that at all.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Half and half is not middle ground? Are you kidding me? And you are on the rotation section of Divinity's proposal. It gives TMO+FE+IB as group 2/3 of the mobs every month weekly . . which is more than half.

I am honestly not sure how to talk to you.

To be fair, I'm going to explain my mindset a little bit more.

You are assuming that BDA and Taken will never get a mob on the other two weeks of the month. They already do now. They lock down Vox and Inny. BDA beat us to Talendor just yesterday. And we were more than happy about it. Because that's what we've wanted to see. Another guild at least trying. They could have had Sev easily if their FTEer had hit him first, pure coinflip. BDA got FTE on Druushk and got him to 50%, with one more bard he'd have probably been dead. Taken got last VS. These guilds are more than capable of competing, they have been for a long while. And now they are starting to actually try. These past two weeks have guilds trying things they didn't in the past, and they're going to keep trying and getting better. While TMO has only gotten weaker. This server could get very interesting very soon.

You know what you're overlooking about all these different agreements? We (tmo and fe/IB) are not allowed to compete with other guilds on their time, while they are absolutely allowed to compete with us. We could break up with IB, or BDA could step up onto our tier, or TMO could fucking shut us down and we don't get anything. It's not just 2 or 3 guilds sharing for those two weeks, more competition can appear for us. In short, we aren't guaranteed any number of mobs like you seem to think. And frankly I'm fine with that as long as we have a chance to get a decent number, and two weeks is not enough. That's why I don't like Divinity's proposal. Because it kills competition instead of foster it.

[Bossman]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just for the sake of argument..

You're just assuming that BDA and Taken will never get a mob on the other two weeks of the month? They already do now. They beat us to Talendor just yesterday. And we were more than happy about it. Because that's what we've wanted to see. Another guild at least trying. They could have had Sev easily if their FTEer had hit him first, pure coinflip. Taken has gotten the last 4 or 5 Innys, they got last VS. These guilds are more than capable of competing. And now they are starting to actually try. You know what you're overlooking about all these different agreements? We're not allowed to compete with other guilds on their time, while they are absolutely allowed to compete with us. We could break up with IB, or BDA could step up onto our tier, or TMO could fucking shut us down and we don't get anything.In short, we aren't guaranteed any number of mobs. And frankly I'm fine with that as long as we have a chance to get a decent number. That's why I don't like Divinity's proposal. Because it kills competition instead of foster it.

Your "competition" is stupid. The majority of the server feel this way. If you like "competing" this much, go to red and try to unseat the top guild there. TMO started it and you fools perpetuated it. Not our fault.

[DrKvothe]

It sounds like you don't like it because the competition is twice as risky, and you're scared to lose out.