OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[Durka]

Originally Posted by Buriedpast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO and FE put about 6 seconds in to this.

This agreement = a few scraps for you guys

And the rest of the time TMO and FE alternate kills on shit.

Its fucking retarded, greedy, obnoxious and all of the people Ive spoken to are laughing at it.

The only solution that works is a bag limit. Weight it any way you like to reward IB FE and TMO for already being keyed etc. Who cares.

It scales in to velious VERY well.

Dude, I was all for lottery or points. I am just saying this topic in specific needs to be replied to by guild leaders. It seems we all have chimed in and not been happy with the idea.

Not opposing you.

[Buriedpast]

The problem is, people in TMO, IB, and FE want ALL of the mobs.

Rogean does not want this
Sirken does not want this
Nilbog does not want this.

Thus we can know that without being fair, instead of obnoxious dickwads wanting 70% of the mobs 75% of the time, we should instead share them 100% evenly with a bag limit, which sees tmo and ib going nuts for PD and co, and the rest of the server opened up.

And once again, no coding changes, no intervention, and whokilledit.net means its self policing.

[kphooper33]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd suggest removing Fay/Sev/Inny from priority target list.

The big 3 can always get green scales from Hosh, Fay is one of those easy dragons that would allow smaller guilds to compete for them (lvl55).
Inny eh....I guess mage staffs... but they are too rare to count on.

This. 1 Green scale a month seems a little greedy. Red scales are already stupid hard to get. Do the top guilds REALLY need that many green scales still? It would be nice to think that the warrior epic will not cost me 500,000 plat. THAT is not old school. Even if I knew I could just tag along to a TMO/IB/FE raid and loot a scale, that'd be fine. C-blocking epics is just stupid.

The rest seems reasonable to me

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by kphooper33 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. 1 Green scale a month seems a little greedy. Red scales are already stupid hard to get. Do the top guilds REALLY need that many green scales still? It would be nice to think that the warrior epic will not cost me 500,000 plat. THAT is not old school. Even if I knew I could just tag along to a TMO/IB/FE raid and loot a scale, that'd be fine. C-blocking epics is just stupid.

The rest seems reasonable to me

What is classic is a very very large majority of the server not having epics until deep until Velious. GG

[Xadion]

Originally Posted by kphooper33 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. 1 Green scale a month seems a little greedy. Red scales are already stupid hard to get. Do the top guilds REALLY need that many green scales still? It would be nice to think that the warrior epic will not cost me 500,000 plat. THAT is not old school. Even if I knew I could just tag along to a TMO/IB/FE raid and loot a scale, that'd be fine. C-blocking epics is just stupid.

The rest seems reasonable to me

the war epic ALWAYS had the green scale cock block. If its still rare on a 1k population server with YEARS of kunark... You think it was 'easy to get' or cheap on a 2k population live server with less than a year of kunark?

rotation is dumb as shit folks...

the 'top guilds' do not think they should just be given all the mob, they think that within the rules they should be able to WORK and COMPETE to get as many as they can... Its everyone else that wants rotation or candy loot bags given to them that are the ones saying they are entitled to stuff...

most of the population just sits back and says 'well I got my epic on live and didn't super raid!' yes, after the changes to epics after velious... During Kunark and early vel they where rare and elite...well sans rouge lol

[Barkingturtle]

What you guys seem to fail to realize is that we've been in Kunark so long now, we're actually about due for LDoN. Instances are in fact classic at this point.

[kphooper33]

Originally Posted by Xadion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the war epic ALWAYS had the green scale cock block. If its still rare on a 1k population server with YEARS of kunark... You think it was 'easy to get' or cheap on a 2k population live server with less than a year of kunark?

rotation is dumb as shit folks...

the 'top guilds' do not think they should just be given all the mob, they think that within the rules they should be able to WORK and COMPETE to get as many as they can... Its everyone else that wants rotation or candy loot bags given to them that are the ones saying they are entitled to stuff...

most of the population just sits back and says 'well I got my epic on live and didn't super raid!' yes, after the changes to epics after velious... During Kunark and early vel they where rare and elite...well sans rouge lol

Ya Xadion... But the problem with your and ALL these stupid arguments is that these guilds moved on... quickly. These guilds have been C-blocking for YEARS. You saying that buying up hundreds of alts in EC tunnel and farming 1 expansion for years in any way compares to Live events?

Oh and "WORK and COMPETE" lol. How is loading plat-bought alt armies "working" or "competing". Funny I don't remember Cats in Hats loading alt-armies to farm Naggy/Vox or anything for that matter on Drinal...

[kphooper33]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is classic is a very very large majority of the server not having epics until deep until Velious. GG

Yes, the 50 spears of fate and 30 click sticks in the EC tunnel daily on lvl 52 characters is classic too..

Oh and the main reason for this was not cock-blocking, as you well know. The reason was that the next expansion was actually released before everyone was level capped and farming epics for 2 years.

[kphooper33]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you guys seem to fail to realize is that we've been in Kunark so long now, we're actually about due for LDoN. Instances are in fact classic at this point.

This... So everyone please stop with your "this is how it always was" bullshit.

[drktmplr12]

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