OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[gummab]

Originally Posted by JerSar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not a raider. I am not affiliated with a raiding guild. My main is level 24. This system seems fair to me.

If you want to get more loot then join a bigger more hardcore guild. If your "loyal" to your current guild then start a motion to compete more.

This system is fair, and I don't even give a shit.

Why do people keep saying *if you want more loot*, all i want to do is kill these mobs,as far as i'm concerned i'd be happy if there was nothing sorted out by the 2nd and raiding continued WITHOUT mobs dropping loot, actually thats a good idea mobs without loot.That would solve the toxic environment in one swoop.

When and if you start raiding you may change your mind,raiding here is like walking into a minefield.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

read proposal. it opens things up, some good ideas.

my only warning is, the best rule sets get simpler, not more complex. so that is my two bits. to quote Ralph Waldo Emerson: "simplify, simplify, simplify."

get the rules as simple as possible. otherwise, rule lawyering will make your head explode inside of two months.

but good start.

still think my proposal was and is the best. but I am of simple mind, to quote Luca Brasi

[JerSar]

Originally Posted by gummab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do people keep saying *if you want more loot*, all i want to do is kill these mobs,as far as i'm concerned i'd be happy if there was nothing sorted out by the 2nd and raiding continued WITHOUT mobs dropping loot, actually thats a good idea mobs without loot.That would solve the toxic environment in one swoop.

When and if you start raiding you may change your mind,raiding here is like walking into a minefield.

I started p99 when it came out. I raided. I was a top end necromancer. If you want to kill monsters then join a monster killing guild.

I deleted my 60 necromancer because waking up at 4am bat phone wasn't fun to me and I didn't want to be tempted to waste away my time soloing for nothing.

The community on p99 on the lower levels os fantastic.

We all play for different reason, but I'm just saying that if you want something, go get it don't complain (not you specifically) until you get it brought to you.

Off to play jello kitty office edition or w/e

[Durka]

Originally Posted by JerSar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I started p99 when it came out. I raided. I was a top end necromancer. If you want to kill monsters then join a monster killing guild.

I deleted my 60 necromancer because waking up at 4am bat phone wasn't fun to me and I didn't want to be tempted to waste away my time soloing for nothing.

The community on p99 on the lower levels os fantastic.

We all play for different reason, but I'm just saying that if you want something, go get it don't complain (not you specifically) until you get it brought to you.

Off to play jello kitty office edition or w/e

all i have for this guys 2cp is...its worthless. Stay on topic. Is this a good idea or not?

If not, then say whether your guild is against or for this idea.

Personal experiences aside.

[JerSar]

Originally Posted by Durka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

all i have for this guys 2cp is...its worthless. Stay on topic. Is this a good idea or not?

If not, then say whether your guild is against or for this idea.

Personal experiences aside.

I told you I thought it was good.

[Durka]

You are a single person who does not voice for a guild. We need guild leaders agreeing to this or disagreeing. This topic has gotten so offhand. TMO/FE put a lot of time into this, we need officers from guilds to agree/disagree to this. I was even part of the 'off topic'. Lets see what comes of this.

[gummab]

Originally Posted by JerSar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I started p99 when it came out. I raided. I was a top end necromancer. If you want to kill monsters then join a monster killing guild.

I deleted my 60 necromancer because waking up at 4am bat phone wasn't fun to me and I didn't want to be tempted to waste away my time soloing for nothing.

The community on p99 on the lower levels os fantastic.

We all play for different reason, but I'm just saying that if you want something, go get it don't complain (not you specifically) until you get it brought to you.

Off to play jello kitty office edition or w/e

Fair play to you then,but i would never join a top end guild here,my mindset would not allow it i just don't like the idea of shitting on the ones below you,when common sense could prevail.

And i agree the lower levels the community is great,even some of the higher levels are great,it's just the pixel lust that you see make me sick.

[JerSar]

Originally Posted by gummab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair play to you then,but i would never join a top end guild here,my mindset would not allow it i just don't like the idea of shitting on the ones below you,when common sense could prevail.

And i agree the lower levels the community is great,even some of the higher levels are great,it's just the pixel lust that you see make me sick.

Yes. I agree.

I just think that this proposal opens up many targets for everyone considering they can (class b) still go after all mobs.

From what I read it's a workable solution to non-rotation while giving all "raiding" guilds a chance to shine.

I think a vast majority of people posting here didn't read it or are thinking that some kind of dark ages would be allowed to descend if it was agreed upon. If it works it works if it doesn't it doesn't.

I read all 47 pages of replies and it gets real confusing in there... But it just looked feasible.

[Durka]

Lets just say it doesn work for "Category B' obviously. Maybe I misinterpret these posts, but from what I have seen there is negative reaction to this proposition. I myself oppose it, but I am not the voice of my guild.

The idea is to have the guild leaders/officers agree or disagree to this proposal or amend it. Maybe tomorrow we will see more light on this from guild representatives.

[Buriedpast]

Originally Posted by Durka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are a single person who does not voice for a guild. We need guild leaders agreeing to this or disagreeing. This topic has gotten so offhand. TMO/FE put a lot of time into this, we need officers from guilds to agree/disagree to this. I was even part of the 'off topic'. Lets see what comes of this.

TMO and FE put about 6 seconds in to this.

This agreement = a few scraps for you guys

And the rest of the time TMO and FE alternate kills on shit.

Its fucking retarded, greedy, obnoxious and all of the people Ive spoken to are laughing at it.

The only solution that works is a bag limit. Weight it any way you like to reward IB FE and TMO for already being keyed etc. Who cares.

It scales in to velious VERY well.