OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by h0tr0d (shaere) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That being said, this is an interesting social experiment going on.[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha... sometimes I wonder if nilbog or Rogean is going for a doctorate in Sociology and we're all part of the thesis paper.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Visual [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gonna be a lot of smaller guilds sprouting up and they're going to want targets too.

I say let the smaller guilds sprout up and get destroyed. If you seriously think smaller guilds can operate with this huge variance, you're cluelessly mistaken.

Have fun hoping your 15man raid squad can log everyone on at 3am compared to the guild with a roster of 50+

[Visual]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This all happened because guilds were monopolizing content. They agree to straight up give away mobs, like all the time. And people are outraged at such an insult and want so much more. Can't even believe what I'm reading tonight.

I thought it was going too far to back off completely on those priority mobs for a week. No waiting period, no exceptions. Not to mention draco and Talendor are still huge targets for us. We still have to compete with TMO for anything that we kill while nobody else does. I'm going to have to look into this points system or whatever you guys are talking about. I don't know how it can be worse for us then this proposal.

You give an inch...

[Pheer]

I personally find it pretty hilarious that now the more casual guilds are attempting to pull the same exact shit that everyone was scared TMO would attempt (refusing to cooperate or compromise to keep other guilds raid suspended). Which the GMs also specifically said was something theyd be willing to not only disband TMO for but also ban their officers as well. But apparently its ok for casual guilds to refuse to compromise or communicate on this issue in any way beyond making demands since they feel they have nothing to lose.

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Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally find it pretty hilarious that now the more casual guilds are attempting to pull the same exact shit that everyone was scared TMO would attempt (refusing to cooperate or compromise to keep other guilds raid suspended). Which the GMs also specifically said was something theyd be willing to not only disband TMO for but also ban their officers as well. But apparently its ok for casual guilds to refuse to compromise or communicate on this issue in any way beyond making demands since they feel they have nothing to lose.

you're comparing a single guild to half of the server.

Just stop replying now.

[benjay]

There was a system that achieved some success on my server back in the day for a few weeks untill the top guild simply decided to not abide by it, there was a guild rankings based on kills in the previous month, with the rule of you are only allowed to kill something once a month unless a guild within 2 spots of you is planning to contest, it worked well for people back in the day maybe someone smarter than me can modify it to the box

[Hailto]

TMO/IB/FE giving smaller guilds a week each month uncontested to attempt high value mobs and people are still complaining. Im curious what you guys actually want, do you want us to help you kill the mobs as well/lead the raids etc?

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop, this isn't worth fighting for. There's not enough good material in this pile to even bother saving.

"Giving up a weeks worth of mobs was tough on us." Really? Just stop. Bump a proposal that doesn't favor the top end.. Again.

Anything that is proposed will always favor the top end. Wtf are you smoking. That's because the top end tries harder, invests more or whatever. It will always be that way. We're talking about being good sports and not monopolizing shit here. We're going to have to compete with TMO, nvest all that effort, and maybe still end up on the losing end. Why don't you propose something "fair"? Whatever guild you're in gets an equal amount of mobs as TMO?

[Yinikren]

I have no issues with compromise (see my unbiased post) but I think its absolutely hilarious that TMO and FE can "cut their losses" on 25% of the mobs they would normally take to divide amongst the rest of the server, then peddle their idea as the epitome of fairness.

[jaybone]

i've said it before and ill say it again. FE and TMO need to stop raiding until Velious is released.