OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Bossman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No offense Deru, but that's BS. How is this "official" proposal given more levity than any of the proposals that were discussed (namely point system)?

Let everybody get together as hash this out, not discuss with TMO behind closed doors.

It wasn't. If you guys want to try and work something else out, go ahead. Hence my post. Nothing is 'official' until all of you guys agree on it.

Personally I feel this is a fair agreement. The only concession I would try to make if I wasn't a 'category A' guild would be to drop inny and fay to de-prioritized targets.

[Amirite]

this is a joke right? lol that is the dumbest thing i ever half read.

i exp in vs pit all the time, i want oggok cleavers.

[DrKvothe]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are a guild leader or an officer with the power to represent your guild and do not like this proposal, you should be contacting Unbrella and Zagum and working out a time where you can either A) talk about your proposal or B) make modifications to this one.

So we're to take from this that this is the official new set of rules unless TMO and/or FEIB agree to another proposal? Despite them getting all of VP and 3/4 of Trak/VS/etc? This proposal is pretty much garbage, and it's pretty frustrating to see a GM propping it up before it's clear whether anyone outside of FE/IB (one raid, one voice?) and TMO are buying it.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by jaybone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why does TMO need to raid until velious comes out?

TMO deserves to raid just like every other guild on this server.

The solution to this situation is supposed to benefit the entire server, not bash TMO or have another guild benefit.

[Crosswind]

Reject. Achieves the singular distinction of being overly complicated while solving absolutely nothing. Sweet.

-Cal

[Bossman]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because guilds as a whole(representing raiders) have signed off on this one.

Some joke agreement that you and FE/IB came up with does not constitute multiple guilds reaching a consensus. BDA and Taken endorsed a point system. Why is that not an official proposal?

[phacemeltar]

this is a dumb fucking idea. what happens when another guild comes along and wants to start raiding, yet disagrees with what you people have already proposed? this faux democracy is just another step back into the bad which was TMO-reign.

[JayN]

Originally Posted by jaybone [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why does TMO need to raid until velious comes out?

cause they'd cease to exist; hardly seems fair to newer members or recruits; this isnt about neutering whos on top. It is about making raiding tenable for EVERYONE

[jaybone]

Originally Posted by Kope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO deserves to raid just like every other guild on this server.

The solution to this situation is supposed to benefit the entire server, not bash TMO or have another guild benefit.

not really. the only thing they have left to gain from Kunark is padding their RMT accounts.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by DrKvothe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So we're to take from this that this is the official new set of rules unless TMO and/or FEIB agree to another proposal? Despite them getting all of VP and 3/4 of Trak/VS/etc? This proposal is pretty much garbage, and it's pretty frustrating to see a GM propping it up before it's clear whether anyone outside of FE/IB (one raid, one voice?) and TMO are buying it.

No, you guys all need to agree on something. As per Sirken's post, if an agreement isn't reached by the 2nd, everyone is raid suspended until you do.

We aren't going to 'sanction' anything until everyone is in agreement.