Raid Scene Poll

[Autotune]

Would you guys stop crying and just figure out the order in which you want to rotate pixels? There hasn't been competition in ages and I don't want to deal with batphones and tracking anymore.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would you guys stop crying and just figure out the order in which you want to rotate pixels? There hasn't been competition in ages and I don't want to deal with batphones and tracking anymore.

How goes the levels?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How goes the levels?

Haven't logged on, I might later or maybe tomorrow and start up again. Christmas has me so stuffed and lazy.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haven't logged on, I might later or maybe tomorrow and start up again. Christmas has me so stuffed and lazy.

I hope you get to 60 and then you get stealin back.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope you get to 60 and then you get stealin back.

I would love a Christmas miracle, but seems those might not happen anymore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would love a Christmas miracle, but seems those might not happen anymore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel ya. I really do.

[Cecily]

Grinch stole Christmas, amirite?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grinch stole Christmas, amirite?

Eh, no christmas to steal lol.

[Yinikren]

A 2 hour, two week lockout on all raid mobs is a great idea, as Derubael suggested. I'd hate for TMO to come back and then IBFE and TMO just end up trading mobs.

The only issue I see is that there will be a three tier system going on, with TMO taking a week, IBFE taking a week, and everyone else gets stuck competing for the last slot, with multiple guilds taking shots. This still doesn't really solve the issue of letting people in smaller or family guilds get to attempt mobs. It just breaks up the monopolization into a three way competing figure.

This is the reason a point based basket limit, IMO, would be the best course of action, because we can adjust values for mobs now and then scale them when velious comes out. A basket limit would work perfect when we have ~58 raids mobs (Velious) as opposed to ~19 now. Velious easily contains enough mobs that guilds will have to focus targets they need at the expense of something else.

For instance, lets say each guild gets 100 points a week, as was pointed out elsewhere on the thread. Velious is out, and they want to plan out mobs to kill and compete with.

Point values for each mob can be adjusted based on guild wants/needs or to prevent a monopoly. For instance, ST key mobs could be priced at 35-40 points each, a limit that would automatically guarantee more than one guild keying up for ST at a time. It also means a less cluttered ToV or Kael, because if a guild wants to work on ST keys, or farm loot off the best (and most expensive) mobs, they are doing it at the exclusion of other mobs. If two guilds want Sontalak, then there's still competition for resources, so no one can bitch that there isn't competition. This simply prevents guilds from taking too much of the raid mob pie.

[Reguiy]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand why people are upset. I get that you all want a shot at the raid mobs and TMO takes the large majority of them, which breeds jealousy and contempt. It's not like TMO was using hacks to slay these mobs or mobilize faster...they just wanted it more and put in more effort. It was the same thing on Povar. Triton /pwn'd the server and everyone else competed for the scraps. They put in the time, they reaped the rewards. The major issue here is the slow crawl of Kunark. People app TMO and therefore need gear. You can't name me ONE raid mob that doesn't drop an item that is in need.

One of the points I'm trying to make, is that TMO probably doesn't even need to accept applicants at this point. With the amount of toons/alts they field, they could probably compete in the raid scene and take 75% of the mobs with ease. But they would rather keep actively recruiting a large amount of players to maintain their firm grip, instead of using what they have to gear who they have.

If they didn't recruit apps their number of toons/alts wouldn't be as high, but they also wouldn't have as many people to gear. At this point they're basically recruiting so they could have a massive force in velious. No veteran in the guild needs gear for their main at this point, and gearing up 3rd alts is not classic.