Lol, this isn't going to change anything.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Variance would be so sucky in NTOV.

"Oh look vyemm is up!"


*collective sigh*


Then arry pops and the whole world goes to shit.

Variance existed in Velious... look it u [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. It also wasn't the 7 day +/- 48 we have here

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep 3-4 other guilds here have an idea on the cost of raid related items, and it is a drop in a bucket compared to what you can bring in from equipment sales.

The duplicated items/platinum did not just sit in someones bank. No interest is made, unlike in real life. It is given away /spent. If I had an unlimited amount of platinum I sure as shit would spend it/give it away.


You have ZERO idea how much it was, or where it went, or how many times it changed hands. Money is a liquid item. Their cheating has made us all guilty. I can put 2+2 together when I see high end items that drop off bosses being sold by platlord, who always seems to have a great stock of items...until durabel knocked that shit down.

Funny he always seems to get more stuff back. IB/FE/BDA have not killed THAT many traks that they are able to steadily supply RMT sites.

Platlord, the person that sells plat and raid items as well as accounts.

You do realize he plays the EC market (buying and selling items) as well as RMTs plat/items? It's not on the scale of how others do it, but there is a reason he has always been able to acquire raid items that are also sold in EC. The ones that aren't he usually acquires from people when they sell their accounts off.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enjoy your belief.... its not based on any evidence. Even the GM's think it was just those 2 players.

Enjoy the end of your guilds hold on a community of good people.

[hatelore]

I will never forget the time, Good ol sericx trained us at a ragefire encounter. Ragefire... Of all things. Not only did he train every single fire giant on us, over... and over again. But he decided to go get all the lava duct crawlers ,bats,kobalds and whatever else he could find too. Funny, we still got ragefire. And I think he got a suspension for that.

He was a swell chap. Thats the kind of shit that should recieve a perma ban if it was frasped. which it was.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep 3-4 other guilds here have an idea on the cost of raid related items, and it is a drop in a bucket compared to what you can bring in from equipment sales.

The duplicated items/platinum did not just sit in someones bank. No interest is made, unlike in real life. It is given away /spent. If I had an unlimited amount of platinum I sure as shit would spend it/give it away.


You have ZERO idea how much it was, or where it went, or how many times it changed hands. Money is a liquid item. Their cheating has made us all guilty. I can put 2+2 together when I see high end items that drop off bosses being sold by platlord, who always seems to have a great stock of items...until durabel knocked that shit down.

Funny he always seems to get more stuff back. IB/FE/BDA have not killed THAT many traks that they are able to steadily supply RMT sites.

Froovy/Internode was banned for Duping.. not for RMT. No evidence found that they were RMTing.. .likely duping for personal use or in game wealth.

You are connecting dots that aren't there.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not so sound like a noob, but I will. Were Velious mobs on variance?

Some were, some weren't.

[hatelore]

Pretty sure , someone could provide a link to the youtube vid. But it isn't too important. Its the norm for tmo.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will never forget the time, Good ol sericx trained us at a ragefire encounter. Ragefire... Of all things. Not only did he train every single fire giant on us, over... and over again. But he decided to go get all the lava duct crawlers ,bats,kobalds and whatever else he could find too. Funny, we still got ragefire. And I think he got a suspension for that.

He was a swell chap. Thats the kind of shit that should recieve a perma ban if it was frasped. which it was.

If that was the case, chest, anthrax, metallikus, and many others in BDA would be perma-banned along with him.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Platlord, the person that sells plat and raid items as well as accounts.

You do realize he plays the EC market (buying and selling items) as well as RMTs plat/items? It's not on the scale of how others do it, but there is a reason he has always been able to acquire raid items that are also sold in EC. The ones that aren't he usually acquires from people when they sell their accounts off.

I never said it was all TMO, and if i did I didnt mean to. I am trying to make my position clear. But to think that the guild who has killed trak more times than should be done by sane people, have not got a piece of that pie in some manner? It's ridiculous.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some were, some weren't.

+-4 is a good idea, I like +-4.