Raid Scene Poll

[gummab]

Originally Posted by Sadre Spinegnawer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

something that crept into this thread, is the "casual guild" needs to gain access to end game content.

What? Huh?

Casual guilds get obsolete content or barely contested content. Trying to eliminate that fact is one step away from instances.

I thought this thread and the issue was about refining how competitive guilds interact. By competitive, I mean guilds that can field a raid force at spawn, at least a few times a week.

Eww. Do not try to make sure anything with a pulse gets a shot at encounters. That is truly a bad idea.

Casuals play casual. Their choice. Want mobs? Get on the mutherfuckin batphone.

Ever thought these so *casual guilds* as you put it want to raid more content,but cannot because they have jobs,familes to take care of and have no chance of using a mutherfuckin batphone unless they want to lose there jobs?

My vote goes to no pooping and no variance.
All i want for christmas this year! is no douchebaggery & training.

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by gummab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ever thought these so *casual guilds* as you put it want to raid more content,but cannot because they have jobs,familes to take care of and have no chance of using a mutherfuckin batphone unless they want to lose there jobs?

My vote goes to no pooping and no variance.
All i want for christmas this year! is no douchebaggery & training.

Yes, I have thought of that, and don't care. Casual guilds get nothing, that's classic.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The difference between me and 95% of the rest of the people in this thread is that I am more concerned with making the raid scene fun than I am with dividing the pixels evenly.

/agree with you here, i've been saying this for awhile.

i can't imagine anyone enjoys 4AM batphones for 30 second encounters.

i'd love to see The A-Team get some raid target kills with a 6 man group.

[gummab]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, I have thought of that, and don't care. Casual guilds get nothing, that's classic.

The speed of your post tell me that you do care.Merry Christmas to you

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by gummab [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The speed of your post tell me that you do care.Merry Christmas to you

Oh Europa? You guys will get stuff. Extremely casual guilds will probably not tho.

[pharmakos]

re: "casuals got nothing in classic"

the definition of "casual" was different back then. if you got your character to 55+ in kunark and then cut back to playing 5 to 10 hours a week.... you still got to kill some dragons once in awhile.

[aldred]

I have a proposal:

• First week of each month -> casual raiding
  • During this week, only the casual guilds will raid and kill targets based on a rotation. Need to decide which guild are in the rotation, what are the allowed targets and how much time they have to kill their target (maybe 12h). This allow casual guilds to take their time to organize the raid, prepare themselves and make 2-3 attempts at these targets without stress. One week is what, 1-2 pop max. of each targets, far enough for casual guilds to have a few epics done and some interesting fights.
  • As casual guilds are not ready for VP, schedul open raid there during that casual week at a defined time, so keyed people that normally won't see it much can come and see its content. This will also give an opportunity to people that usually are in competition to meet and play together. (or VP stay out of this system)
  • Host some open raids for more common targets maybe? (Chardok royals, planes, etc.)
• Last 3 weeks of the month -> hardcore raiding
  • I let you decide how you manage this, but the idea is to have fair competition during the rest of the month.

That would both give casual and hardcore what they want, the way they want.

I think something like that would encourage more people to play on Project 1999, and give a better "vibe" to the server and the community.

What do you think about it?

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by aldred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a proposal:

• First week of each month -> casual raiding
  • During this week, only the casual guilds will raid and kill targets based on a rotation. Need to decide which guild are in the rotation, what are the allowed targets and how much time they have to kill their target (maybe 12h). This allow casual guilds to take their time to organize the raid, prepare themselves and make 2-3 attempts at these targets without stress. One week is what, 1-2 pop max. of each targets, far enough for casual guilds to have a few epics done and some interesting fights.
  • As casual guilds are not ready for VP, schedul open raid there during that casual week at a defined time, so keyed people that normally won't see it much can come and see its content. This will also give an opportunity to people that usually are in competition to meet and play together. (or VP stay out of this system)
  • Host some open raids for more common targets maybe? (Chcarok royals, planes, etc.)
• Last 3 weeks of the month -> hardcore raiding
  • I let you decide how you manage this, but the idea is to have fair competition during the rest of the month.

That would both give casual and hardcore what they want, the way they want.

I think something like that would encourage more people to play on Project 1999, and give a better "vibe" to the server and the community.

What do you think about it?

Overall, I like it. Simple plan that covers the basics of what the community is after.

I personally would like to exclude VP and and Trak from the rotational lists all together.

[falkun]

I voted for raid delays between consecutive spawns (sloan-style), repops and reduced variance. While I think poop-socking is bad for the server, I don't see a good way to enforce it, even if everyone agreed. At the same time, socking will be reduced because forces will have to move around due to the "sloan-style delays". The bag limit shouldn't matter as much come Velious, and as we saw at yesterday's respawn, there was a fairly even distribution of mobs even without the bag limit.

Overall, the passed two days have been great. But to give TMO credit (and a warning), we'll see how all this pans out over the course of the next two months.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

re: "casuals got nothing in classic"

the definition of "casual" was different back then. if you got your character to 55+ in kunark and then cut back to playing 5 to 10 hours a week.... you still got to kill some dragons once in awhile.

We simply don't have any true casual guilds on this server, unless its Knights Who Say Ni. Sadre is just trolling (successfully it seems).

Also, as hard as it is to believe, I agree with Olidaen. I would rather have server enforced game mechanics than player agreements. I just don't think that those server mechanics should reward people for hours of watching the tracking box and gearing/leveling 4 alts so they can log one on at 4AM for 15 minutes to kill a dragon.