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Old 12-20-2013, 02:11 PM
Nirgon Nirgon is offline
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Did you even read Rogean's post? This is about more than just the recent exploits of a few.
I read pretty much everything. Seen my post count? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you guys need to do, as I just posted is think about if you got this surprise (more than likely a surprise) as a guild leader.

I've watched fraps, buffed raids for both sides and found both sides have normal people who don't play 20 hours a day with 40-60% raid attendence and then players with 90% attendence for basically the last 2 years. Here's the surprise. People with insanely high DKP like Zagum (I mean I love EverQuest dude but fucking seriously how much do you love Kunark, damn) are actually the nicer people I've met.

The shitbags, and here's where this might get you thinking, are the people with much lower time investment asking for things, being dramatic and not putting the time in. Worse, they even cause most of the problems in game. Fighting viciously over petty shit like being able to take 1 of the crypt camp spawns if they aren't pulling it fast enough. When was the last time you saw Alarti/Eccezan/Zeelot doing that?

Like Rettiwalk said on red, once you've been on both sides and knows who is doing what... reading both sides trying to cover themselves yet attack at the same time is one of the most entertaining and ridiculous things to observe on a weekly basis.

10% of the population might be TMO, but I'd say 5% from both oppositing parties make up the real 10% of the server's problem.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:14 PM
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I read pretty much everything. Seen my post count? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you guys need to do, as I just posted is think about if you got this surprise (more than likely a surprise) as a guild leader.

I've watched fraps, buffed raids for both sides and found both sides have normal people who don't play 20 hours a day with 40-60% raid attendence and then players with 90% attendence for basically the last 2 years. Here's the surprise. People with insanely high DKP like Zagum (I mean I love EverQuest dude but fucking seriously how much do you love Kunark, damn) are actually the nicer people I've met.

The shitbags, and here's where this might get you thinking, are the people with much lower time investment asking for things, being dramatic and not putting the time in. Worse, they even cause most of the problems in game. Fighting viciously over petty shit like being able to take 1 of the crypt camp spawns if they aren't pulling it fast enough. When was the last time you saw Alarti/Eccezan/Zeelot doing that?

Like Rettiwalk said on red, once you've been on both sides and knows who is doing what... reading both sides trying to cover themselves yet attack at the same time is one of the most entertaining and ridiculous things to observe on a weekly basis.

10% of the population might be TMO, but I'd say 5% from both oppositing parties make up the real 10% of the server's problem.
This is a really long winded way of saying "you should of just sat back and let TMO have their way" Guess what, people didn't and now things are going to change.

Server needs less Neville Chamberlain and more Churchill/Roosevelt.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:17 PM
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Thats bs nirgon.
It isn't I've watched both guilds get people buffed and camped out at Trak, keep trackers going, and rush for mobs.

I would HIGHLY disagree with saying either guild is unskilled.

TMO definitely has more higher geared alts camped out around Norrath and runs like a well oiled machine. I've seen both sides mobilize, buff and execute.

FE,IB, A-Team (almost any guild) could just as easily take every mob if they were left up. It comes down to who can get the right people on at any given hour of the day (variance), has more alts camped strategically (3 years of Kunark lol) or people not in XP groups that don't leave when things pop. Skilled enough to make the kills? Easily. After the time spent farming Kunark, God I would hope so. So everyone can stop bragging about that part, this isn't about the content being hard anymore.

Just realize with TMO gone, another guild would take its place as getting 80% of the raid mobs.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:19 PM
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Just realize with TMO gone, another guild would take its place as getting 80% of the raid mobs.
Jesus christ, the guy doesn't know what enforced raid rotations is... The propaganda machine just doesn't stop.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:21 PM
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Jesus christ, the guy doesn't know what enforced raid rotations is... The propaganda machine just doesn't stop.
That would require a lot of support from the GMs/Staff. They seem adamant that the community police itself. I don't see it happening. I wish it would though.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:21 PM
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Jesus christ, the guy doesn't know what enforced raid rotations is... The propaganda machine just doesn't stop.
That "guy" is responsible for 90% of all classic content done on this server and is neither in TMO or FE/IB etc.



You'd know that if you played this game instead of being a child rapist weaboo
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:22 PM
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Just realize with TMO gone, another guild would take its place as getting 80% of the raid mobs.
Taken and BDA are just as deadly as they want to snag targets.

TMO gone would mean a reboot of rules, and so far Taken , BDA , divinity and FE/IB apparently are talking together because it seems that none of those guilds wants to go with the same BS again.

As a matter of fact, the no trains in VP agreement between those guilds.

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Old 12-20-2013, 02:22 PM
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Just realize with TMO gone, another guild would take its place as getting 80% of the raid mobs.
You claim to read everything on the forum and yet you don't know about the agreement they made that makes 50% about the most any one guild will get? Now maybe FE/IB are just going along with this agreement to push TMO out and will end up breaking it and becoming the next TMO. Hopefully there are enough good people around in those guilds to keep that kind of bs from happening. Only time will tell.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:23 PM
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That would require a lot of support from the GMs/Staff. They seem adamant that the community police itself. I don't see it happening. I wish it would though.
The community can't police itself. It has been proven here, it has been proven on live (Less than 5 servers on live out of the 40 whatever available made it work without staff intervention).

Enforced rotations or bust. Still a million times less work/more effecient than the FTE/Fraps debacle that they have now.
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:24 PM
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That "guy" is responsible for 90% of all classic content done on this server and is neither in TMO or FE/IB etc.



You'd know that if you played this game instead of being a child rapist weaboo
Deflect harder you toolbag. Make a goddamn point or something you waste of skin/time.
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