Workout(bro protein111! 11111 steroids) thread!

[Straif]

Let me first start by saying I was REALLY hesitant to get into this post.

There is a lot of masturbatory talk on the internet on the subject of fitness. The anonymity of the internet turns everyone into an expert. I'm not knocking anyone here, but I want to remind people that when it comes to physical conditioning, you need to know why you do it.

I work predominantly with people who use their fitness for their sport / work. (i.e. Fighters, First Responders, Military Personnel, etc.) Each person is his or her own entity. Their training is specific to the individual.

Without doing a face to face evaluation to know a person's work capacity and current level of fitness, there's no way I (or ANYONE) can give you solid advice like "Do A, B, C and you'll be swole son".

I want to stress a couple of points in general.
1) Have a goal. An obtainable one. If you don't know "why" you're training than you're wasting your time.
2) You can't out-work a shitty diet. Fix it if it's broke
3) Your training needs to be yours and yours alone. Don't follow another person's plan.
4) Recovery is equally (if not more) important as training itself.

The most important thing you can do is be honest with yourself. Brutally honest. Training is not one size fits all. Someone who trains to be a competitive bodybuilder isn't going to be doing the same training as someone competing competitively in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Track your progress. Embrace what works and get rid of what doesn't. If you stagnate or plateau, you'll have a log of everything you need to know in front of you and can adjust your training accordingly.

Also: Be skeptical of ANYONE who gives you advice. (Including myself right now). Take it with a grain of salt.
Crossfit is an interesting program. It gets people up off the couch and out of the house. But it isn't an end all be all. P90x falls into the same category.

If maintaining a physique in attempt to increase your chances at getting laid or whatever, than by all means. If your like me and other like-minded individuals who have to worry about getting caught in a choke, carrying a causlty, or having someone throwing fists at you with bad intentions. Fitness takes on another meaning.

Be honest, Be diligent, and work hard. You won't miss your mark.

[dscar23]

Supplements are highly overrated. I reccomend a preworkout supplement if you smoke weed like me and need the added energy boost.
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I took creatine last winter and it blew me up but my rep maxes didnt increase. got off it and have been lifting all summer I'm not benching more than I did on creatine.

just drink alot of skim milk (i drink a gallon every 2 days) and make sure you eat right. eating right is the most important thing

[ukaking]

Straif,
Very valid points and more what I thought I would be reading when coming on here. Is it me, or do you get the feeling the people that claim to lift the most are also the "pew pew pew" people you speak of?

[Aum]

Well said straif. The biggest thing I like about the crossfit program is it is typically a full body workout, and allows me to be brainless about it and follow their routine. A bicep curl isn't going to help me become any more functional. It won't help me lift a ladder, carry a patient, or give me
the cardio to keep going. At least not much. I need to work everything if
I'm going to beable to perform like I need to.


That's the biggest problem I have with gym equipment. Might make
you pretty, but it's not going to help you function too much, which is what I need.

[Straif]

Originally Posted by ukaking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Straif,
Very valid points and more what I thought I would be reading when coming on here. Is it me, or do you get the feeling the people that claim to lift the most are also the "pew pew pew" people you speak of?

People like to boast and brag a lot. That's why there are mirrors in gyms.
I tend to take a humble approach. Your actions speak louder than words and someone, somewhere might be working ten times harder than me.
Show don't tell. My deadlift 1RM or other PR's don't mean shit to anyone else but me. So I question a person who has a psychological need to talk about their achievement's.

Originally Posted by Aum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well said straif. The biggest thing I like about the crossfit program is it is typically a full body workout, and allows me to be brainless about it and follow their routine. A bicep curl isn't going to help me become any more functional. It won't help me lift a ladder, carry a patient, or give me
the cardio to keep going. At least not much. I need to work everything if
I'm going to beable to perform like I need to.

That's the biggest problem I have with gym equipment. Might make
you pretty, but it's not going to help you function too much, which is what I need.

Most of my programming is built around the Crossfit concept: Compound movements. Training is only effective if it transfers to the real thing. The real thing being work / sport / whatever.

My beef with P90x and Crossfit is that it's randomized and unstructured. It'll build a good foundation but other aspects of fitness suffered because of it. But just because it doesn't mesh with my goals doesn't mean it doesn't work. If the work is done and it produces results, the training is working.

[azeth]

Ya Straif I've been doing p90x for about 3 years now, I'd say between 5-6 total 90 day cycles on it. I've heard a lot of people griping about how it doesn't build muscle, or is too high impact etc.

Like you have said in posts above, if your doing work and seeing results then it's for you. My background is athletic, baseball and soccer in highschool and college, currently doing MMA so doing high impact work outs for an hour a day is what my body is use too.

A lot of friends come from more of a Football/Beach body background and I tell them p90x is probably not for you. Hitting the gym with free weights and playing the beefy role versus the flexible role is just what their bodies are use to.

I like when people pick up working out again, or even start for the first time because they see immediate results. Anybody who I've pushed p90x on comes back after like 2-3 weeks with a washboard saying "wow thanks man"

[Straif]

The funny thing is in all of this is that physical conditioning isn't new. The only difference is that we went from a civilization that had it built in to our everyday lives to living a homogenized lifestyle and trying to make time for it.

Training isn't anything more than picking shit up and putting it down. Plus working genuinely hard at it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Rellika]

It isn't new, but with advances in medicine and technology its been much more tested and studied over the past 4 decades as far as what is most affective. Fitness now spans a wider range of diet and training techniques than it ever did.

[Straif]

Originally Posted by Rellika [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It isn't new, but with advances in medicine and technology its been much more tested and studied over the past 4 decades as far as what is most affective. Fitness now spans a wider range of diet and training techniques than it ever did.

This is true, which is why most elite professional athletes train in secret and notable coaches are highly sought after. But in a very broad sense of fitness and conditioning, most people don't need to complicate things as much as they do. I used to fret over specifics, luckily I met a coach who brought me down to earth. I know a few people who take training down to a science, and they work to gain only a tiny improvement. However most of them have a training history that spans 7+ years. Fractions of a second means a win or a loss in their world.

I spent a year building a solid foundation before I was allowed to start formal training.

[eqholmes]

I was not trying to boost about my lifting, it’s just something I have done my whole life. I played college basketball, but never worked out as intense or as much as I do now. I took many personal fitness related classes, which my major was, Business Management and my minor was Exercise Physiology. Basically I will be opening my own gym here shortly once my Business plan is finished up (lots of fun writing up a 200 page report). As for lifting for multiple hours, as long as you are resting enough, eating correctly, and liftly correctly you will see more gains.

Truly if I was boosting pics would be involved. Rellika I will say it does sound as if you know what you’re talking about and I respect it. Lastly that is only a little bit of my workout and clearly it changes month to month, but it is a good baseline of the intensity/duration.

If anyone wants any tips or anything I am always more than willing to assist people.

Also p90 and stuff isn't for me, not quite my thing. I prefer the more tradational lifting, but each person has their own preferences, and as they say you can't fuck with results.