Veeshan's Peak Training

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derubael, welcome to server, I know you are semi new. Do not mind Nilly, they have always taken the stance of being above the law. They have a developer as one of their officers who usually "finds" changes when its convenient for them. IE the exact places and mobs he used to level to 60 were nerfed right after he was done with them. Whether or not you guys choose to ignore the fact that a developer has been exploiting content knowingly is up to you guys. I know its not in the best interest of the staff to publicly fight against each other. I wish integrity was across the board though.

I just don't even... I mean how the hell could P99s own developer be an exploiting piece of shit in-game? I don't get it. Unless there is some seriously onion blooms involved, I don't know.

Nihilum/azrael/whoever means 0 to me and the rest of the staff. You're all players, that's it. And ty for the welcome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Edit:
Stop flaming each other in this thread. Take it to RnF. This thread's here for a discussion on training in VP, nothing else.

[Retti_]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

azrael isn't the only guild that can train.
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azrael doesnt have enough keys to even kill trash mobs, look at CT rules: cannot set off dt cycles unless raid force is present to steal mob

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Be more creative. It's a non-csr zone
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yet csr are intervening on a creative spot used to dodge training that has 0 effect on the pve fight and is not exploitative

[Stasis01]

I say Azrael merges with Nihilum and we end this petty training war.

For the good of the box.

[Kinamara]

chocobo, you're absolutely right that I did not join azrael. Quite honestly, azrael(full retard or whatever the name was that week) had my preference at that point, because I came to server with people from LoZ who went that way.
However. I went to one event with azrael, only to get shit talked by officers, druids asking me for symbols that I should pay peridots for while I was still new on server, etc. It took me about 20 minutes at an azrael raid to make up my mind, since some danish pals I played with on tz back in the day asked if I was interested in trying out nihilum.

Since I clearly have proven to own you, I can understand you being bitter for wasting your chances at having my heals on your side.

To your 2nd post - yes, training should either be allowed or not be allowed. Rules should be rules, no matter what zone, what day of the week, what skin color, what coffee was served that morning, etc.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Retti_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

azrael doesnt have enough keys to even kill trash mobs, look at CT rules: cannot set off dt cycles unless raid force is present to steal mob

Fear plane isn't VP, though I understand where you are coming from with this.

yet csr are intervening on a creative spot used to dodge training that has 0 effect on the pve fight and is not exploitative

Ledge ruling is not getting changed, ever. Nilbog made that pretty clear.

[Nothxu]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fear plane isn't VP, though I understand where you are coming from with this..

That was my point as well. The server has generally accepted that training is not pvp and not really fun for anyone. No training should be applied to all zones, especially the hardest zone currently in the game.

Based on the PoF rule, we have also accepted that 3-4 people griefing a raid of 30+ should not be tolerated either. I think a similar rule should be in place for VP.

[Rellapse35]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ledge ruling is not getting changed, ever. Nilbog made that pretty clear.

[freez]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ledge ruling is not getting changed, ever. Nilbog made that pretty clear.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Nothxu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was my point as well. The server has generally accepted that training is not pvp and not really fun for anyone. No training should be applied to all zones, especially the hardest zone currently in the game.

Based on the PoF rule, we have also accepted that 3-4 people griefing a raid of 30+ should not be tolerated either. I think a similar rule should be in place for VP.

What makes VP special is the fucked pathing in that zone. That's always been the case on both servers.

[Colgate]

as stated 50x this thread, TMO gets all the dragons in VP while being trained

you have the advantage of being able to pvp the trainers and those assisting them

play better