Veeshan's Peak Training

[Jenni D]

Wont server be dead(er) once teams99 opens anyway?

[s1ckness]

elderan going to take his ldr board and go home

[Kinamara]

I guess VP is shut down for good in that case on red. No future guilds will be able to raid it, as all it takes is 3-5 people to stop it.

Glad I've got all my shit from there at this point lol.

If people can go in and just train without even having a raid able to contest the dragons ready, that's gonna effectively stop pve.

If there was a rule that you must have 20 people inside VP before you're allowed to train, it'd be a different story, because then pvp would actually solve the problem.

[Rellapse35]

well you could you know, kill the 2 or 3 people training with the 30 man raid force you have..after all it is a pvp server

[Kinamara]

Cannot kill people with invuln aura and res boxes before they can drop a train.

Anyway, I've got my shit, don't really mind not raiding it, but it's just a huge blow to a pvp server to allow three people to effectively shut down the end game raid zone.

Pvp over pve is fine, legal training in a zone that only one guild is actually trying to kill stuff in is not.

I just hope the current opposition someday will try to man up so we can switch the roles, cause that is what will be required for a rule change with current GM opinion.

Imo, either legalize training everywhere, or make it the same for all zones. It would really make sense to only have it allowed when you are present in a zone with a raid that is able to contest the same mob where you're training people at.

[Nothxu]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Deflect all you want, but until a valid answer is provided as to why its possible to kill vp dragons on blue but not on red, I don't see this getting changed.

Just seems silly that there are extremely rigid training rules that apply to every zone in the game, except the most difficult zone in the game.

Fighting on the ledge gives you no PvE advantage, it just allows you to avoid the training (which is bannable in any other zone).

I would also be curious how people on the blue server are killing the dragons and avoiding res box training. Do we need to get access to bards and clerics over there and grief the blue raids until something changes? There is enough griefing and trolling already.

Seems some type of rule needs to be in place about having a raid force there, similar to the rule around needing a raid force before starting the Plane of Fear death cycle. Purpose of the rules are the same, it prevents 3-4 people from griefing an entire raid and promotes pvp, which is what we all want.

[Rellapse35]

You guys full of excuses and tears over this subject. Blue still manages to kill the same dumb ass dragons while being trained.

You guys have an advantage they don't have. Can kill them b4 they even enter VP.

But hey most of the core of Nilly were rejects from blue who could not cut it in the raid scene.

[Rellapse35]

Originally Posted by Nothxu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just seems silly that there are extremely rigid training rules that apply to every zone in the game, except the most difficult zone in the game.

Fighting on the ledge gives you no PvE advantage, it just allows you to avoid the training (which is bannable in any other zone).

I would also be curious how people on the blue server are killing the dragons and avoiding res box training. Do we need to get access to bards and clerics over there and grief the blue raids until something changes? There is enough griefing and trolling already.

Seems some type of rule needs to be in place about having a raid force there, similar to the rule around needing a raid force before starting the Plane of Fear death cycle. Purpose of the rules are the same, it prevents 3-4 people from griefing an entire raid and promotes pvp, which is what we all want.

When IB or Tmo could not kill the mobs due to one side training the other. The guild leaders set in a rotation. They did not create 100 threads of tears about how they can't PVE on a PVP server.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Kinamara [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cannot kill people with invuln aura and res boxes before they can drop a train.

Anyway, I've got my shit, don't really mind not raiding it, but it's just a huge blow to a pvp server to allow three people to effectively shut down the end game raid zone.

Pvp over pve is fine, legal training in a zone that only one guild is actually trying to kill stuff in is not.

I just hope the current opposition someday will try to man up so we can switch the roles, cause that is what will be required for a rule change with current GM opinion.

Imo, either legalize training everywhere, or make it the same for all zones. It would really make sense to only have it allowed when you are present in a zone with a raid that is able to contest the same mob where you're training people at.

you can't kill the person providing them the rez box? you guys are a bunch of crybabies that are bad at this game lol.

[Kinamara]

Sure, want us to recruit 20 more to run around and do that, so that we'll be showing up with 60 at trakanon?