Miscellaneous: procmod/procrate of items.

**nilbog** · #1 10-20-2013, 04:52 PM

It has been reported there should be procmod on any item prior to Luclin.

This was discussed in a non-bug forum thread here:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...d.php?t=125040

If there are no classic objections, I'll be making this change for next patch:

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To be clear:

There should be no weapon with a procmod correct? There are very few that currently exist in game. Will change the mod if this should be the case.

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select count(*) from items where procrate > '0' and itemtype <> '19'

95

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Frostwrath,Reforged Sword of Truth,Blade of Frozen Steel,Barbed Fishing Net,Gleaming Shai`din Naginata,Hammer of Souls,Hammer of Judgment,Staff of Writhing,Wakizashi of the Frozen Skies,Claw of the Grimling Slayer,Short Sword of the Grimling Slayer,Great Sword of the Grimling Slayer,Hammer of the Grimling Slayer,Staff of the Grimling Slayer,Dirk of the Grimling Slayer,Spear of Eternal Bondage,Soulbane,Trident of the Seven Seas,Blasphemous Blade of the Exiled,Pebble Crusher,Skull Shaped Wand,Vile Rib of War,Partisan of Stampede,Mithril Knuckles,Short Bone Blade of the Grimling,Spider Silk Whip,Spider Silk Handwraps,Long Sword of the Defender,Bloody Stone Dagger,Claw of the Savage Spirit,Snowchipper,Silver Blade of Thunder,Fiercewind,Large Meat Tenderizer,Barbarian Spiritist`s Hammer,DawnFire, Morning Star of Light,Staff of Undead Legions,Sarnak Liberator,Hammer of Divinity,Fireclaw Talons,Revtu's Platnium Ulak,Hammer of Holy Vengeance,Pile Driver,Obsidian Scimitar of War,Withering Staff of Agony,Coral Headed Mace,Furious Hammer of Zek,Kelp Hilted Mace,Darkblade of the Warlord,Ivory Hilted Cleaver,Gleaming Obsidian Shard,Greatstaff of the Four Winds,Corpsegrinder,Greatstaff of Power,Bow of the Huntsman,Rune Etched Icewurm Fang,Ishinaear Xiall,Acrylia Handled Broadsword,The Sword of Ssraeshza,Caen's Bo Staff of Fury,Fiery Staff of Zha,Bloodfrenzy,Great Sword of Pestilence,Hammer of Damnation,Clawed Griffin Sword,Spear of Winter,Club of the Ice Ocean,Sledge of Smashing,An Insanity Crawler Fang,The Golden Pick,Brightflame, Pride of the Lifebringer,Tarantella,Summoned: Windwoven Dreamcatcher,Summoned: Searing Torch,Summoned: Icefall Icicle,Summoned: Jagged Ragesword,Hugs,Dainsleif,Durandal,Kisses,TriXim, Dagger of the King,Ensorcelled Great Sword of the Night,Summoned: Burning Shank,Aged Frozen Zweihander,Aged Smoldering Cudgel,Coldforged War Hammer,Summoned: Staff of the North Wind,Summoned: Fireblade,Summoned: Dagger of the Deep,Hammer of Reproach,Sporali Battle Hammer of Spirits,Daybreak, Bringer of Light,Greater Spiked Staff,Mace of Silent Shadow,Maul of Silent Shadow

Proposed fix would be to set procrate to 0 for these items.

Discuss.

Treats · #2 10-20-2013, 08:40 PM

Ugh, thought Kanras set all procrates to 0 a long time ago ;/

Tecmos Deception · #3 10-20-2013, 08:58 PM

Someone make up a bunch of old zam posts that show a huge proc rate bonus for OT hammers please.

**nilbog** · #4 10-21-2013, 01:34 PM

Fixed, pending update.

Retti_ · #5 10-21-2013, 02:48 PM

What exactly does this mean?

Items currently have different proc chances, but pending patch all will have the same proc rate?

koros · #6 10-21-2013, 03:07 PM

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This isn't correct if they are resetting all procs to be the same. There wouldn't have been reason to have a differing level on the RMoY and removal of it from game if it didn't have a higher proc rate or proc mod. Same thing with Blade of the Black Dragon eye, it was taken out of the game being viewed as "too powerful" and moved to a place more restricted like VP as the Blade of the Red Dragon eye, with its improved partner Sword of the Shissar. I don't even know if the BofRDE drops here cause nobody kills trash mobs.

Bloodpoint was suppose to have a minor mod as well as a few others within kunark era. So if you strip the mod or have done so already, then again there will be an unnecessary unclassic nerf.

Database queries on proc rate from 2003/2004 show that no old items had proc rate mods. It's that simple.

Melissa · #7 10-21-2013, 03:35 PM

so the fix is going to make the listed items proc less right? just wanted to make sure of that

bizzum · #8 10-21-2013, 04:10 PM

Any chance of posting what the current bonuses were just for reference's sake? Would be nice to know what is going to be taking a hit!

koros · #9 10-21-2013, 04:41 PM

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the ones you can find perhaps, why is RMoY a lvl 50 req. whereas all other ykesha procs are 37 according to websites? Why was it removed when its ratio is only slightly better by 1 in each category to the ykesha club? and even slimmer on the ykesha scimmy?

Why were the devs comments on the black blade listed in patch notes as what i described above if it were the same as all the rest? That spell isn't known to draw more hate than other spell lines nor do vastly more damage than say bloodfire in regards to the DoT, yet was removed and placed differently cause of its power. Ratio could be the argument, but again there are other weapons with similar or better aspects however still in game in non-raid zones.

Because it was dropping off trash? Who knows, they removed a lot of random items from early Kunark. What we do know is that it existed in the databases the queries drew from. It didn't have a proc rate mod.

It doesn't have one on live to this day:

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=6607

Thulack · #10 10-21-2013, 06:17 PM

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I was basing information off of what devs said, not what random websites listed. Power was the reason for removals and the moving of some items to other locations like NoS and the like.

Besides the database of today would be different than '04 and the database of '04 would be different than 2000 especially with removals and adjustments.

Makes no sense that the items would have a proc rate in classic then removed before the 2004 database then put back in after? botBDE and RMoY is OP because of combination of ratio and the proc. the procrate didnt have to be modded for it to still be OP.