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Old 10-15-2013, 01:17 PM
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You could also mention the only real warriors are the ones with extra meat to actually take damage. #Ogreeverytime
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:20 PM
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Pretty good guide, I wish it had been around when I was spending my starting points trying to remember after a decade of not playing EQ :p Although dex/procs currently on P99 are way more important than they were during classic live.

Also green scales are about 3-4x more rare here than in live it seems, no way the scales should be going for more than VP stuff. If supply/demand is causing that, something is broken.
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:37 PM
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Excellent guide and a great read!
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:40 PM
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First, this is a very well written and easy to read guide. You've done a great job on it. In looking at the sentences below, which are from two sequential paragraphs, there seems to be a contradiction.

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If you are being healed by a shaman or druid (or, god forbid, a paladin), AC is all that matters. More AC = greater efficiency.

So my recommendation is something like 1AC:3HP for raid tanking and something like 1AC:5HP for leveling, when it is more likely you'll be healed by a druid or shaman.
While I think it is really inconsequential, the latter sentence indicates that the ratio of AC to HP is greater for the raid scenario, while the target ratio is lower for shaman/druid healed groups. This can be misleading, as it follows the paragraph that states AC is all that matters for the shaman/druid healed groups.

Again, really well written guide as a whole. Thanks for posting it up.
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:45 PM
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I believe it's meant to be read as "1AC=3HP for raid tanking and something like 1AC=5HP for leveling"

Which would mean that a 10 ac item is worth the same as a 30hp item for raid tanking, as opposed to leveling where 10 ac would be worth 50hp.
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:01 PM
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Saw nothing about Trochilic's Skean in your weapons category. I have never used one but thought most warriors were looking to grab one for aggro?
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:52 PM
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Fixed a few things:

Skean: I don't know the hate value for Clockwork Poison which contains both a stun and poison counter. I'm guessing its a bit more than the Silken whip but not hugely so.

Clickies: substantially upgraded that section thanks to Elements and Pharmakos

happy has the right idea about ac/hp and I edited the guide to make that more clear.

Added a section on positioning and soloing.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:59 PM
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Very well written, thought-out & informative post. Your guide will shed some light on the Warrior class for those who choose to roll them as alts or as mains on Project 1999.

Perhaps you should consider editing the stuff about raiding (TMO) and make it a little less intimidating / harsh. Many new players to P99 come here with the intent to relive or experience old content. This may be a "the truth hurts situation", but with it re-worded, new players may give the server a chance and find out on their own how it all really works versus just saying screw it altogether.
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:21 PM
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Well, despite the popular misconception I have no problem with TMO. But I really do not like the current raid scene (variance). If you want to participate, you have to do a substantial amount of tracking, batphoning, camping your main out at various areas, and so on. It involves a lot of time and it is not, to me, a lot of fun.

Now suppose you roll an enchanter, level to 55 and decide that spending 10 hours a week hitting the track button or getting up at 3AM to slay pixels in a 15 year old game is not how you want to spend your life. You have options. You can join a casual guild and get your epic, sky, and hate gear, or farm any number of encounters and buy a IP/BCG/Hiero etc. So you have a decent amount of interesting content challenges and you can gear your toon to the point where, if you are decently skilled, there is no practical difference between you and a raiding enchanter.

Repeat this process as a warrior. There are some decent things you can do to earn money (like General V'ghera) but they are few and far between compared to an enchanter. You can still join a casual guild, but they can't help you much with your epic or any of the really important stuff. If your equipment looks like Ringed Mace x2/indicolite/RBB (better than quite a few 60 warriors) you're just substantially worse than a raiding warrior with the epic/shissar/cobalt/BotFW. You'll do 30% less damage, produce 20% less threat, have 15% less survivability, and so on. And all of this goes triple if you didn't decide to roll ogre.

In my opinion new players should roll something else unless the current P1999 raid scene appeals to them or they have some strong random attachment to the Warrior class. Paladins, Shadowknights, and Monks are all much cheaper to gear. All three of them have easy 41% haste belts; Paladins and Monks have a relatively easy epic. All three have relatively more interesting gameplay: Paladins/SKs with spells, monks with FD splits and pulling. All three can be effective from level 20.

It's not that I don't like my Iksar broodling; I play him whenever I can get away with it. There is just something cool about standing in front of a badass pixel dragon and not dying, feeling in control of the raid. It's like that scene in Hackers when they hijack the satellite. But I put in the hours to farm up my gear (what can I say, it gives me something to do), and I had an enchanter to do it with. And also the spore king was easy money back in the day.
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:35 PM
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Above post shows why there is very few Warriors around. Sadly they will be more needed when Velious comes out.
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