Raiding in P1999 is nothing like raiding in classic.

[JayN]

Obama ruined classic thanks obama

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, I have no problem with it being classically unfair. But variance isn't classic.

it Isnt like many things but it serve a purpose.
Again Loraen if u realy experienced what was having a hungry euro guild killing things when u where in high school or sleepin and when u loged excited to kill some dragons or things and u got told all is allready dead ....

well u would thank a variance.

thats the eqlive irony about euro guilds and patches. most eqpatches downtime resets happened in euro early time so giving european guilds a hugue adventage over usa asian localed guilds.


a classix example would be Solusek ro server, where the usa raid guilds where anhilated by euro and by the time of velious launch was a non official euro server.


realy do you think Soe bothered to launch euro servers because they wanted to be nice to euros? nahhhh it was due to massive tears of raiders.

[coki]

The raiding scene now is so much better than it was when TMO/IB were going at it that it's insane how much you guys don't see it.

nah its the exact same shit, it's just TMO is on top now, and once your there, well heh...you'll do anything to stay as long as its still fun to shit in others cheerios
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on a diff note...holy shit this is funny...http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...2&postcount=38

[Yapas]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it Isnt like many things but it serve a purpose.
Again Loraen if u realy experienced what was having a hungry euro guild killing things when u where in high school or sleepin and when u loged excited to kill some dragons or things and u got told all is allready dead ....

well u would thank a variance.

thats the eqlive irony about euro guilds and patches. most eqpatches downtime resets happened in euro early time so giving european guilds a hugue adventage over usa asian localed guilds.


a classix example would be Solusek ro server, where the usa raid guilds where anhilated by euro and by the time of velious launch was a non official euro server.


realy do you think Soe bothered to launch euro servers because they wanted to be nice to euros? nahhhh it was due to massive tears of raiders.

I was in Euro guild (top 1 server Vazaelle) and I have to confirm that Patch downtime was often during morning euro time.

[Godefroi]

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[Faisca]

Originally Posted by ncapatina [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know the first thing I said in this thread was that it's amazing how people come to this server knowing what it's all about but complain about it anyway.

You're right it is going to be a repeat. That's because that is the INTENTION of this server, to repeat that era. I'm in the same boat as you man, I don't have the time to invest to hang with TMO right now. Maybe never will. But I knew that going in, and I don't see how anyone could think things would be different.

Imagine for a moment that the top tier content guilds decided they've had enough loots and started letting other people kill it. Say goodbye to the majority of the high level population of the server than I guess...

And how many players has this server said goodbye to, who have given up because they have burned out or because they were not interested to raid under these conditions in the first place? Many, many more than those.

Yes, they could go play in a different server, but those other servers either aren’t classic or are so heavily customized they’re just not appealing. To relive classic EQ experience this is the server to be.

And no, this server wasn’t built with the intention of bringing the negative aspects of classic EQ back again, and even if it was, it was only for the first 8 months of Kunark. After that it’s not a repeat. It’s a whole new game, and doesn’t have to be like this.

The devs have done an amazing job creating this server, but there is so much they can do. The rest is up to the community, and unfortunately the dominant forces in the community, because they obviously have vested interests in letting things stay as they are, don’t let this server be a pleasant experience for everyone.

The sad thing is this is not even pleasant to them, but because this is their job, it’s ok that it’s not pleasant. It’s a job and they need to protect it any way they can.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Faisca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And how many players has this server said goodbye to, who have given up because they have burned out or because they were not interested to raid under these conditions in the first place? Many, many more than those.

Yes, they could go play in a different server, but those other servers either aren’t classic or are so heavily customized they’re just not appealing. To relive classic EQ experience this is the server to be.

And no, this server wasn’t built with the intention of bringing the negative aspects of classic EQ back again, and even if it was, it was only for the first 8 months of Kunark. After that it’s not a repeat. It’s a whole new game, and doesn’t have to be like this.

The devs have done an amazing job creating this server, but there is so much they can do. The rest is up to the community, and unfortunately the dominant forces in the community, because they obviously have vested interests in letting things stay as they are, don’t let this server be a pleasant experience for everyone.

The sad thing is this is not even pleasant to them, but because this is their job, it’s ok that it’s not pleasant. It’s a job and they need to protect it any way they can.

this server was amde to replicate classic EQ. and its what is doing.no one forced those players to raid . so if they quit was his choice.

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it Isnt like many things but it serve a purpose.
Again Loraen if u realy experienced what was having a hungry euro guild killing things when u where in high school or sleepin and when u loged excited to kill some dragons or things and u got told all is allready dead ....

well u would thank a variance.

thats the eqlive irony about euro guilds and patches. most eqpatches downtime resets happened in euro early time so giving european guilds a hugue adventage over usa asian localed guilds.


a classix example would be Solusek ro server, where the usa raid guilds where anhilated by euro and by the time of velious launch was a non official euro server.


realy do you think Soe bothered to launch euro servers because they wanted to be nice to euros? nahhhh it was due to massive tears of raiders.

So yeah basically: Get rid of variance. Add simulated patch days early euro time and watch Europa become no.1. Seems classic/legit.

No tears right?

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by coki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nah its the exact same shit, it's just TMO is on top now, and once your there, well heh...you'll do anything to stay as long as its still fun to shit in others cheerios ( and it is! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

What he says.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So yeah basically: Get rid of variance. Add simulated patch days early euro time and watch Europa become no.1. Seems classic/legit.

No tears right?

no for me im euro.