Will I be reimbursed?

[Aviann]

So what I've gathered from page 5 or 6 or w/e... is that Dundor is Infuriati, and that he has been online with both chars simultaneously? Not only is that illegal, but he is scamming as well. I'll be adding both to my friend's list tonight and petitioning if I see them on together, in hopes of getting some IP investigations kicking.

[arsenalpow]

Fun fact. One day Jarnauga was looking at Divinty's RL picture thread that's on their public forums and he came across a picture of Infuriati. Infuriati turns out was a former BDA player named Wampy. He was our first epic shaman in the guild and literally days later he RMTed off everything.

We cross referenced his current gear with his gear list on the RMT site. We reported everything to Amelinda, no idea what became of it. He definitely burnt us badly, so when Jarn found this I passed it along to Divinity, if I remember correctly he had just decided to "retire" until velious and I doubt he's tagged with Divinity anymore. Just Wampy doing Wampy things.

Back on topic, if you need help downing a general for a rogue epic let someone in BDA know and we'd be glad to help out.

[orsk]

Dundor in EC tun making more false claims, confirmed lowlife and pathetic. Also admitting to scamming. He knows GM's wont do jack, good thing accounts cant be traded or sold anymore.

[cs616]

Not to drive business away from Bob, but I've almost always been able to find a trusted person in EC to do escrow for a simple donation. Like wise, I've done quite a few for free myself. I think most people in TMO or FE have invested enough into their characters that they would not risk them to rip someone off. That isn't to say people in other guilds aren't in the same boat, but I don't think it is a universal as TMO/FE just due to how much more active those two guilds are. Obviously hindsight is 20/20, and the advice in this thread won't help your situation, but I'd imagine the suggestions people are making in here are more directed towards anyone reading this thread, and not you specifically.

Edit: Also funny to see the BDA / TMO drama over monk epic. Always amazes me how people break out these weak justifications for doing generally shitty things to other people."TMO are mean, so I'm going to be mean to them!" - with this sort of reasoning we're all just racing to the bottom. I think TMO has some members who are complete pieces of shit, but that doesn't stop me from grouping with the good ones, or helping them out when asked. Judging someone based solely on their guild tag would be like picking your friends exclusively on what University they attend. TMO, and even Aalpha (I really don't know him/her at all) could be complete jackasses, but their actions do not dictate yours, and doesn't make jacking someones Xeno (of all mobs lol) any less shitty; even if it is technically in accordance with the rules.

[Pringles]

Why are GMs allowing MQ scamming, exactly? I get not "supporting" MQs, but scamming is scamming is scamming, MQ or not.

[Widan]

Why does no action ever get taken against the blatant scammers though? You won't be reimbursed, but surely the scammer should be banned. The same thing was happening in the month prior to account trading being banned. Every other post on the forums for an account was a scam and all of the scammers got away with them.

I will just quote my post from a month ago about MQ'ing

Originally Posted by Widan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not just get rid of it altogether?

The same thing that happened with account trading is going to happen here, i.e. more and more people scamming until it's outright banned. Why don't we just skip the scamming part this time? Scammers aren't going to care even if you do go after them because they will just be low level characters without any ties auctioning fake MQ's, just like they did with account trades.

This is exactly what is happening and will happen more and more until some action is taken to deter scamming or we will end up with MQ'ing being removed just like account trading.

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow.

Lol.


I'll limit my comments to one thing though. If you don't think RB is MILES ahead of piercers like SCD or rapier of oriin... then you've obviously never used a RB. RB is absolute godmode.

I'm not saying it isn't awesome. I'm just saying you can already faceroll content with the next best thing and nobody complains about a twink rogue with a fungi/RBB and some 13/26 dagger. That is why I call the line arbitrary, you think it's fine to use a drop off Trakanon for example (let's say a kunark class BP) which is harder than doing the ragebringer quest, just because it's droppable?

There just seems to be this sentiment among some people that drops from one 55+ raid is ok but drops from another isn't just because it's called an epic? Because it's a weapon? Because it's obtained from a quest? I dunno.

I still think MQable crap should just be droppable/tradeable if you're going to allow MQing at all.

[Lu|z Sect]

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[Samoht]

Originally Posted by ncapatina [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is why I call the line arbitrary, you think it's fine to use a drop off Trakanon for example (let's say a kunark class BP) which is harder than doing the ragebringer quest, just because it's droppable?

no.

just because it's classic.

it's your line that's the arbitrary line.

ours is clear and concise.

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no.

just because it's classic.

it's your line that's the arbitrary line.

ours is clear and concise.

Fair enough. So you'd be cool if there was a 16/25 dagger that was droppable and someone was twinked out with it? I guess I was fighting the "it's OP'd" argument but if that's not the argument than I can't really argue with you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some of the posts (like the one from Tecmos for example) seemed to directly attack how powerful it was and not anything to do with 46+ being required back in the day.