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09-09-2013, 11:00 AM
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The only quests that build faction throughout the quest are: True Spirit: Shadow Knight, Shaman, Wizard Even then SK's would open trade windows and get invis before clicking trade to achieve indifferent level faction. | |||
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#52
09-09-2013, 11:21 AM
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@Ele : I *believe* all of them are intended to do all the steps in order etc as I've said.
Sadly, so much is unreachable now, even by the way back machine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Classic posts during this era didn't exactly have a lot of people (if really any) experimenting with their epic hand ins using invis or being a different class. Especially the final turn ins. I'd settle on what live has now because its certainly better than lvl 1s running around with epics :P. It is also easier to bang these out on live by a mile than doing them on EQMac and I believe they should differ very little regarding the final turn in. With epics not being purchasable for lvl 1 alts, I suspect this may alleviate the "buy your epic" market and mobs being camped for sale. Pending what Nilbog would want to get this content (his favorito department, mine's mechanics!) resolved.. we may need to join forces with Pasi to finish the live epics. | ||
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09-09-2013, 12:11 PM
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At the very least it was recognized, publicly, in early Velious that Ragefire was farmable via Gimblox and chaining off a Natasha, meaning that anyone could do the Cleric epic just for pearls.
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09-09-2013, 01:00 PM
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Not all epics required specific faction from previously completed parts of the epic. You could always skip the beginning of the enchanter epic and for rogue I know you can skip the side quests and whatnot.
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09-09-2013, 05:40 PM
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What I do know is that monk epic is one of the epics that we have a shit load of data suggesting it was doable at level 1 in Velious. It's also completable at any level on EQMac. If the monk epic isn't doable at level 1 on live, I don't think the rogue epic evidence that I posted is valid.
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09-09-2013, 05:53 PM
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[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
http://www.eqmac.com/forums/viewtopi...t=7693&p=89532 By shitloads of data, I mean this and about a dozen other posts saying the same thing.
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09-10-2013, 01:09 AM
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[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] So, I was able to do every turn-in for the monk epic on live with the exception of the final turn-in. We know this turn-in is possible on EQMac, so this invalidates the data that I previously provided on the rogue epic. There's a lot of previous posts on class forums about being able to acquire epics on live at any level (read one of my earlier posts on this thread). I've read about a blanket patch for epic minimum levels. Unfortunately, there really isn't any agreement on when this happened. Some people claimed it was when they changed it so you could no longer do the BST epic at level 1. I've seen some claims of 2003. I've also seen claims of people completing epics at low levels all the way until 2012. Most of the posts I've read indicated this cap would have been in the 2003-2006 range. What we do know is that many epics can be done at any level on EQMac (2002). There is tons of evidence that suggests that shaman, monk, and cleric epics can be done at any level. Those epics are 3 of the 4 epic's that are sold to low levels on this server. The other epic is rogue which doesn't have a ton of supporting evidence either way. In my opinion (if you care), I would think that none of the epics have a minimum level in Kunark. It makes no sense for them to launch a handful of epic quests in Kunark with a minimum level while the others do not have said minimum level. Furthermore, the BST epic was originally doable at level 1 even during PoP (should be lots of evidence for this - heres one http://www.erollisimarr.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=12831). Why they would have had no minimum level for an epic quest released later down the road makes no sense unless none of the quests had a minimum initially. The correct course of action would be to try to do the rogue epic on EQMac and see from there. Unfortunately, I don't have the means to do this. TLDR = I think the minimum level on epics wasn't a thing for the duration of this server.
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09-10-2013, 11:51 AM
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K so..
Certain parts require faction, level or both, but not necessarily the final turn in and they are different for each epic. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I'll just leave this alone then! Researching all of this would be the most epic bug research post of all. | ||
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