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Old 09-08-2013, 08:09 PM
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That's what people are doing.. that is the entire point of this thread. People asking for change. Why do you feel it necessary to troll them?

Me personally I haven't played on this server in over 2 years. I just like classic EverQuest and want to see it thrive and live on. Thanks for being an ass about things though. You obviously care so much about others and their opinions.
Because you guys don't get it through your heads.

People give you road blocks on issues (things that aren't changing until Z happens) and you just keep bashing your head against it as if it's not real.

You say you want X and I tell you Y is the reason it can't happen. You go immediately back to saying you want X and that Y doesn't matter.

Y matters, it's the reason X won't change.

So, unless you have a way to fix Y there is no reason to keep preaching X. I get annoyed because you guys try to give false reasons as to Y even exists in the first place to try and get them to implement X without changing Y. That's never going to work, so stop.
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:11 PM
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way to go responding to a single sentence of my post.
Lol what did you want me to respond to? I personally think that simulated repops are a good idea. I think the server does have a decent population, but I disagree in calling it healthy. A lot of people give up/quit on it after playing long enough to see the way the end game is, and those that stick around come to the forums to post their ideas and then get ignored and trolled for "whining about it". That's not exactly my idea of healthy.

Numbers aren't the only thing that make a healthy server unfortunately. If so, immediately following Kunark release would be the healthiest the server has ever been, and that's just simply not the case. So many bug fixes and good changes have been implemented since then that it is a lie.
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:13 PM
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Because you guys don't get it through your heads.

People give you road blocks on issues (things that aren't changing until Z happens) and you just keep bashing your head against it as if it's not real.

You say you want X and I tell you Y is the reason it can't happen. You go immediately back to saying you want X and that Y doesn't matter.

Y matters, it's the reason X won't change.

So, unless you have a way to fix Y there is no reason to keep preaching X. I get annoyed because you guys try to give false reasons as to Y even exists in the first place to try and get them to implement X without changing Y. That's never going to work, so stop.
Define X and Y, because I don't remember suggesting an X or you ever giving me a Y. You've essentially just been ignoring and trolling my attempts at telling you how and why people feel a certain way.

Not caring "because it's not the way it is" isn't exactly a good Y rofl. If that were how things actually worked, nothing would ever change.

Edit: I also HIGHLY doubt that the people "whining" are ever going to stop so wishing them to do so is probably not going to work out in the long run. If anything, I would say they are gaining steam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:14 PM
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K. I'm out. done all i could. You guys go ahead and argue till your fingers fall off. 1000 people online at 530 on a sunday afternoon not healthy. server is dying. raid scene dead. everyone quit, this ship is sinking.
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:17 PM
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If what he said is true, then he cannot, by definition of his sentiments, concern himself with rules.

Removing the superficial non-mechanics based rulesets and continuing to be "the best", only enhances the idea of "best" by its very nature.

You, like the poster you've detailed herein, are both naturally bias toward your own cause.

Also, for all you know, I'm in TMO. I'll even go as far as to say that if I'm not currently in TMO, then I was in TMO. That's all the information I'm going to provide.
I'm not in TMO, I was in TMO, and I have no cause concerning them.

The removal of rules in VP wasn't to allow people to claim they are the best. The reasons are clear as to why it is the way it is.

His point is that the bar was the same height when TMO entered VP (They had to fight with IB) and why should TMO lower the bar for others to make it even for them now.

Until staff fix VP, things aren't going to change unless Sirken has a change of heart concerning his CSR's workload.

These things are set pretty much in stone to only happen upon the other happening.

If you're talking about the rules outside of VP, nothing is wrong with them.
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:25 PM
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Define X and Y, because I don't remember suggesting an X or you ever giving me a Y. You've essentially just been ignoring and trolling my attempts at telling you how and why people feel a certain way.

Not caring "because it's not the way it is" isn't exactly a good Y rofl. If that were how things actually worked, nothing would ever change.

Edit: I also HIGHLY doubt that the people "whining" are ever going to stop so wishing them to do so is probably not going to work out in the long run. If anything, I would say they are gaining steam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
They aren't gaining anything, just wasting their time. Like I am wasting mine towards them.

X would be no rules in VP. Y would be VP pathing is broke. Z is fixing of VP or Sirken changing his mind (which he didn't even hint at being a possibility).

Ignorant people feeling a certain way doesn't need to be explained to me, I know why they feel the way the do and already pointed out why the way they feel is biased.

Misconceptions and lies make ignorant people feel like they were slighted and give impossible problems that can't be fixed based on their fantasy.

Like you bringing up how the staff favored TMO in some way over IB regarding VP, yet can't even give an answer on how to solve that situation fairly.

In essence, you are complaining to complain about bullshit you "feel" to be correct.
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:54 PM
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They aren't gaining anything, just wasting their time. Like I am wasting mine towards them.

X would be no rules in VP. Y would be VP pathing is broke. Z is fixing of VP or Sirken changing his mind (which he didn't even hint at being a possibility).

Ignorant people feeling a certain way doesn't need to be explained to me, I know why they feel the way the do and already pointed out why the way they feel is biased.

Misconceptions and lies make ignorant people feel like they were slighted and give impossible problems that can't be fixed based on their fantasy.

Like you bringing up how the staff favored TMO in some way over IB regarding VP, yet can't even give an answer on how to solve that situation fairly.

In essence, you are complaining to complain about bullshit you "feel" to be correct.
Why in God's name would I want to explain how to fix issues that occurred 2 years ago? That's a waste of time, and I already said as much here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...&postcount=155

And of course I am complaining about bullshit and that is the entire point of the thread. Am I missing something?
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Old 09-08-2013, 09:10 PM
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Why in God's name would I want to explain how to fix issues that occurred 2 years ago? That's a waste of time, and I already said as much here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...&postcount=155

And of course I am complaining about bullshit and that is the entire point of the thread. Am I missing something?
Yeah, you are complaining yet offer no solutions to what you are complaining about.

You are no better than a troll.
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:02 AM
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The p99 raid scene is just a place for fat nerds to feel like they are actually doing something significant with their lives for 5 minutes at a time.
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Old 09-09-2013, 10:27 AM
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Yeah, you are complaining yet offer no solutions to what you are complaining about.

You are no better than a troll.
Actually I did offer a solution to the problem, however it involves a time machine, since that's the only way to fix problems that occured 2 years ago.

No solution proposed today is going to fix issues that occured in the past. Time only moves in one direction.

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