Nerf Bard AE Kiting

[SamwiseRed]

so manastones are gonna drop in kunark? they said accelerated timeline i thought (meaning classic to start)

[SamwiseRed]

i assumed it was gonna start classic, wtf YOU talking about?

[Darksinga]

Originally Posted by Syft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude there releasing with kunark what the shit are you talking about?

Kunark is not releasing for at least 2-3 months after new server release... Well at least thats what the whole population wants. Did GMs state server was starting in classic and progressing? Didn't watch the entire stream.

Really no point starting in Kunark. Defeats half the classic content to be progressed through. And I want to shine in my Lambent armor;(

[Bardalicious]

Do not attempt to reason with Syft. I tried telling him 10 different times that Kunark wasn't being released out the gate.

And now he's backpedaling by saying he's talking about low hp kiting when he really just wants all bard AE kiting broken.

Originally Posted by Syft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nerfing argo I'm fine with BUT if the option is release new server with AE group kiting or remove AE kiting all together, I'll take the latter.

And that's how logic and common sense works, you prioritize things based on a global NOT singular view. It's impact on the server being far more damaging then it's effect upon the one class.

Can't even keep up with his own sandy vagina I guess.

And based on a global view? Do you open your own threads to re-read your own comments and pass over all the rest? Because you should see you're not getting much support in this thread. NOT singular indeed... laughable.

[Syft]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do not attempt to reason with Syft. I tried telling him 10 different times that Kunark wasn't being released out the gate.

And now he's backpedaling by saying he's talking about low hp kiting when he really just wants all bard AE kiting broken.



Can't even keep up with his own sandy vagina I guess.

And based on a global view? Do you open your own threads to re-read your own comments and pass over all the rest? Because you should see you're not getting much support in this thread. NOT singular indeed... laughable.

Holy shit you mean i'm not getting support from the 7 other bards that posted here WOW SHOCKING!

Originally Posted by Syft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nerfing argo group kiting I'm fine with BUT if the option is release new server with AE group kiting or remove AE kiting all together, I'll take the latter.

Can you read engrish?

P.S. GM's still up in the air to release with kunark or not did you watch video? And wif does it matter if they do or don't wtf says Kunark is necessary to AE group kite with I was doing it in the karana's and skyrocketed groups to 35+

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Syft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy shit you mean i'm not getting support from the 7 other bards that posted here WOW SHOCKING!



Can you read engrish?

Everyone that disagrees in this thread is a bard as much as everyone that calls you an idiot in global ooc is an alt of Nihilum pal.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Syft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd rather have both nerfed than bog the staff down trying to figure out how to fix argo issues. When they already have so much to do.

Backpedaling moran says wot?

I mean really.. how do you expect ANYONE to take you seriously when you can't even keep up with your OWN retarded arguments in your OWN retarded threads?

[Syft]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Backpedaling moran says wot?

I mean really.. how do you expect ANYONE to take you seriously when you can't even keep up with your OWN retarded arguments in your OWN retarded threads?

YES lol if the option is NERF AE kiting or release with Group AE kiting I choose nerf all AE kiting WTF don't you understand about that statement!

LOL I'll go slow for the moron. IF DEV's cannot figure out a way to release without nerfing the AE group kiting argo by time of launch I'd rather see them nerf all bard AE kiting then let neckbeards one guild control the server absolutely!

WTF would you want to lvl faster and tank the whole server just to have your guy higher lvl quicker lol must be nihilum alt only way you could possibly be that stupid.

[Agatha]

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[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Syft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But on new server none of this BS should go down, they nerfed bard AE's to 4 targets on live because of this nonsense.

Again... show some fucking proof that this nerf was done during the era in which this server emulates.

Originally Posted by Syft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bind yourself right outside OT Fort, ding 30-52 in a day, yea sounds legit. Sorry but Swarm kiting is really good enough for a bard to solo to 60 faster than any other class in game.

When this became prevalent on Live they nerfed it, of course 15 years later everybody knows exactly how to do it and most toons on this server hit 60 because of it. On live 80% of the toons weren't bard lvl'd to 60.

AGAIN... fucking Kunark is not open on release, making 90% of your complaining in this thread irrelevant. Do you even know the difference between "swarm" kiting and pbae kiting? Do you understand that "SWARM" kiting doesn't even function here as it should?

Originally Posted by Syft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's a great explanation of how Bard AE kiting is used now and why it was not something used in classic!

And then you proceed to link a post about LOW HP AGGRO KITING which is entirely different than standard bard AE kiting.

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, if your argument is that LOW HP AGGRO KITING should be nerfed, I agree. But that's entirely separate from bard PBAE kiting, something that I did on live through all of Velious.

Learn to fucking read long enough to realize I'm in agreement that low hp aggro needs to be fixed before the new box releases.

Originally Posted by Syft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd rather have both nerfed.

Pretty obvious that you simply want the mechanic removed all together. Either that or you don't understand that Bard AE kiting = running in circles to AE mobs whereas swarm kiting = abusing social aggressiveness of NPCs to charm one out of a group of 15, /pet attack then break charm before the whole grp kills your pet so you can finish it for xp.

Do not presume to know what the staff can and cannot handle in terms of coding. Low hp kiting could very easily be fixed if they indeed wanted it to be. Either adjust the hate generated by bard AE, adjust the hate modifier that having low HP uses, or do both.

But again.... bard kiting will be viable to 30-35ish AT MOST when this server is released. And considering how many people will be populating every single classic zone, it's going to be slow as fuck. Use some common sense, seriously.