Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Training happened in VP on live. Normalcy wasn't VP on live. Very few guilds got in before Velious. So what is normal?

Training happened but it deffinetly wasn't allowed to be intentionally done over and over. We have already established that like 30 pages ago!

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Training happened but it deffinetly wasn't allowed to be intentionally done over and over. We have already established that like 30 pages ago!

No you actually didn't. Training happened without punishment on multiple servers... we have already established that like 40 pages ago!

[Joroz]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No you actually didn't. Training happened without punishment on multiple servers... we have already established that like 40 pages ago!

Training in ALL zones is against the PNP on live... if you didn't get punished good for you. PNP on P99 != PNP on Live.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by timhutton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is that what I said? You must be slow.

Basically you did, yes.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by timhutton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a bold (and innacurate) assumption since you have no idea who I am. The only thing I care about however is getting the pathing fixed in a zone that has been released for almost 2 years so that there can be some modicum of normalcy that mirrors what occured on live. Crazy, I know.

If there is something else the players can do to help then I would like to be told so that we can all chip in. Whatever help TMO has provided has not been adequate enough. Sorry.

It's already been discussed about Live and people's experiences of it. Live is not some generalized experience that existed on every server. Every server varied, some more widely than others. You guys keep throwing it around as if what your server had was on every server.

It's been reported and it's quite clear that it was never fixed, aside from repeatedly reporting bad pathing every week (when updates come after several months on average), what would you say needed to be done by the players?

Alunova: Created new pathing for Veeshan's Peak

Is the only thing that was posted about VP's pathing for the patch. In the thread, only invis pulling in VP was "discussed".

[Godefroi]

Train wars never happened on live as for all server barely 1 guild per server reached VP.

feel free to provide evidences saying otherwise Alarti.

Pathing is acceptable in VP and anyone willing to avoid training can easily do so.

Now, it really only is about the staff wether or not making the raiding scene access to the end zone after nearly 3 years of kunark, its wether or not they want VP to be the playground for no lives training for 10+ hours (that's what happened last time a raiding guild face TMO, only with twice as less numbers than they had) or if they want the zone to be contested with races and not grief.

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

turn on PVP.

in VP.

[timhutton]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Training happened in VP on live. Normalcy wasn't VP on live. Very few guilds got in before Velious. So what is normal?

Prove it.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by timhutton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prove it.

Have any proof that it was? I'd like to see a live CSR rep post stating that all server's were exactly the same.

Bet all you have is a PnP police, one very similar to what P99 has, but I bet just like p99's PnP the live version wasn't strictly enforced.

[Beastro]

If this was done to slow down progression so the board isn't filled with whines for more content, then why not enable PvP in VP?