This is not classic.....

[Krycek]

I've been here about 2 month's now and would just like to thank everyone involved with bringing this server to life and keeping it going. It's great. So, again, thank you!

[fastboy21]

It isn't that folks don't like/listen to criticism...its that this server breeds people who need to be reminded 8 times a day that this is a free emulator server, not some kind of life defining opportunity or a cathartic experience.

The server is fine...mostly because Rogean and Nilbog take great care of it. Relax and enjoy the game.

When you get that classic EQ itch to punch your monitor it is time to unplug and go outside for a few days.

I'm not suggesting you fall into that camp, but it is why folks react to people who play here getting super serious about the server.

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by Bantam 1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh hell no. Nothing good comes from clicking those ads.


Its like if I had a slimy hole in the wall and I said... put your hand inside.. it'll help the server.

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ad block plus.

Yeah, just clicking should be enough to do the trick.

Originally Posted by maximum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogean made an in-game GM announcement around 2010 about this. I can't find the forum thread, but I'm sure there is one.

Clicking ads offsets the server farm cost.

Click 1 ad per computer, per day, to help pay for P99 costs.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...d.php?t=107096

[DoucLangur]

Originally Posted by Kinlain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lots of good points

I fully support all your points. However, this server has a majority of douchebags in the high end, especially in the raiding scene, and they feed off the frustration of others. Sadly, they also donate enough money to the server (or in more direct ways?) that if they cry enough about some issue, it will be handled the way they want it to be handled.

So for decent players, there's about two options:
1) accept the fact, ignore the retards and play where they aren't
2) do not play on project 1999

For now, I am going with 1) - but especially your very valid points about perma-camping will make me consider 2) if they do never get addressed. It's a pretty weak performance by server GMs to allow people to create a corpse with a high profile drop on it and stay in the camp for another drop.

Also speaks volumes about the character traits of all those people who have no problem with this.

I fully support your requests, but I have a suspicion the GMs / Devs will not consider them before population seriously drops thanks to retards. And then it will probably be too late.

Sherrypie/Slozem

[rickjames]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It isn't that folks don't like/listen to criticism...its that this server breeds people who need to be reminded 8 times a day that this is a free emulator server, not some kind of life defining opportunity or a cathartic experience.

The server is fine...mostly because Rogean and Nilbog take great care of it. Relax and enjoy the game.

When you get that classic EQ itch to punch your monitor it is time to unplug and go outside for a few days.

I'm not suggesting you fall into that camp, but it is why folks react to people who play here getting super serious about the server.

Seems more like it breeds people that think white-knighting it on the forum and trying to live in Nilbog's underwear is going to net them some sort of benefit. Like he's going to show up like Ed McMahon with a giant check and balloons at your house and make you a GM if you flame enough new people.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by rickjames [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seems more like it breeds people that think white-knighting it on the forum and trying to live in Nilbog's underwear is going to net them some sort of benefit. Like he's going to show up like Ed McMahon with a giant check and balloons at your house and make you a GM if you flame enough new people.

Maybe it breeds both. Not sure why the hate for Nilbog's underwear though. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tasslehofp99]

The server not being "Classic" has more to do with the community/players then the devs/Gm's. The only thing the GM's could do (at the moment) is to have more regular simulated patch days, and outlaw training in VP (and any other non-CSR zone, because non-csr did not = training on live.) I think these 2 things would go a long way towards making p99 more classic.

Also, was recharging items allowed in classic? I'd love to get right of recharging if it wasn't classic.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by Kinlain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forth: Raiding.. In classic, there were rotations for raids which were GM enforced. None of this one guild conquer's all nonsense. This happened in classic, and verant quickly ended that. I don't see how GM's on this server do not enforce a rotation, it isn't hard.

Never ever on my live server was their a rotation, and it sure as hell wouldn't have been enforced by GMs.

[Kinlain]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never ever on my live server was their a rotation, and it sure as hell wouldn't have been enforced by GMs.

Not sure what server you played on, but on my server in classic there was about 4-5 high end raid guilds. It started with one guild socking everything, then due to player compliants Verant enforced a rotation. It worked well.... Sure I didn't play on all the servers, but I would assume alot or most of the servers had this same kind of scenerio.

Even if there "wasn't" a rotation, wouldn't putting one in fix all sorts of raid issues P99 faces now?

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by Kinlain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I just started not to long ago, and I am already figuring out this server is not classic AT ALL....

First: I can understand RMT, there has always been that, but allowing you to sell your accounts for plat is ok? Not to mention even selling them on the official site. if I remember right you weren't even allowed to share your account with a member of your own family on classic live. Let alone sell it for ingame currency.. This alone ruins the economy. Not to mention it also even invites RMT, new people can just buy plat. Come on this website, and purchase a raid lvl toon. How can GM's allow this?

Second: Camps.... in classic GM's would enforce camping rules, perma camping was not allowed at all, shoot "camping" was not even allowed except for a few special camps. When a certain camp was allowed like Fungi, epic camps etc. It was usally get your item, and leave the camp to the next person on the list.

Third: NBG: In classic, there was once a thing called need before greed. You know where if you need something you would get it before someone who can't even equip it, and wants it to resell. Granted, I am not 60 yet. So I don't know first hand how this plays out in high end camps, but from what I see on the forums its non exsistant.

Forth: Raiding.. In classic, there were rotations for raids which were GM enforced. None of this one guild conquer's all nonsense. This happened in classic, and verant quickly ended that. I don't see how GM's on this server do not enforce a rotation, it isn't hard.

Fifth: While I understand GM's cannot handle all these requests, but this is one of the reasons they had guides. This server has over 800 people. There should be no reason that there shouldnt be a few community guides to help enforce the rules, and overall make this a better experiance for new, and old players.

If this is going to be a mirror of classic EQ, that should also mean the same ruleset, am I right?

I think the main reason people can get a bit hostile, is because every point you made literally has hundreds of pages of threads devoted to discussing those things. So, to a lot of us, you are just bringing up points that have been argued again and again for years.

Most of us are fully aware of the pros/cons associated with all of your points and most of us have come to the conclusion that after years of discussing these things, there is very little that can be said that will suddenly cause the server GMs to change things. Most of us have chosen to play on this server because of the way it currently works and have accepted its various nuances. We have made the decision to dedicate hundreds of hours of our lives to enjoying this server and its ruleset.

People might be a bit hostile because your post is well.. filled with ignorance. The GMs do a better job here policing RMTers than any live server of any MMO I've ever played on. If you think RMT is nearly as rampant on here compared to any live server anywhere, you are just straight up delusional. Your point about 'camping wasn't allowed on live' is something I certainly have never heard of. People certainly claimed camps back in live and sat there for many hours. Also, I've spent hundreds of hours grouping on this server, and your complaints about 'need before greed' make me think that you haven't invested nearly the amount of time in groups compared to most of us. Need before greed does seem to be the standard 95%+ of the time.

The main point you should take from my post, is that these topics have been beaten to death, so feel free to continue arguing your point, but realize that all sides of all of these issues have been discussed at great length already in these forums, and there is little you can say that will change the minds and hearts of the general population at this point in time.